Stupid enough to go back home?!?


Like many posters have said before, the ending is by far the weakest part of the film. The ex-motorman just barely made it onto the street and was walking away before the cops went down into the tunnel. And what does he do? He goes back home!!
I was expecting him to get a hotel room somewhere. I was thinking "no, you're kidding me, he wasn't that stupid" whenever they show Garber going door-to-door, and there he was right there at home!

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They had to have that "I recognize that sneeze" moment we could all see coming by a mile.

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He went back home because he didn't think that his true identity would ever be discovered. He assumed that, despite everything that had happened, their plan was fairly air-tight, and that, as far as the subway passengers and transit police were concerned, he was simply Mr. Green, a mustached, trenchcoat wearing, hijacker. When he climbed out of the tunnel and onto the street, he shed that indentity and went back to his day-to-day life, thinking he was home free. He didn't think he had any reason to hide.

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I never had a problem with that. Criminals often make dumb mistakes and are overconfident. On the other hand if he did all of a sudden leave town then that would make the authorities suspicious. If anything the bit with the sneeze at the end was weak. It may have led to the best closing shot in a movie ever. But the sneeze itself doesn't prove anything. It may have convinced Garber that this was the guy, but he would need something more substantial if he were to ask for a search warrant.

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Garber is a composite character there r lots of other cops in the novel one whom
gets Longman as he's leaving his apt.
That over ride of the dead man's switch was an invention of the movie.
Blue get shot by a cop trying to get away, I forget the other 2.
Blue shoots the motorman, not the conductor.

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That's nice, but we're talking about the movie here, not the novel.

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In fairness, we're exploring the motives of a character. Extra background information is welcome in such a debate.

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No, the movie must stand or fall on its own. The book is not passed out to movie-goers as a study-guide for review during the viewing.

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Green/Longman going back to his place was actually planned. As Blue/Ryder points out to him, as a fired motorman he'd be checked out by the police.


I haven't read the book but this was also my thought. The hijackers would know that the ex-motorman would be visited in the process of the investigated and his absence would be suspicious.

Having said that, rolling around on the bed with the money was silly and counter-intuitive to their post hijacking plans.

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But the sneeze itself doesn't prove anything. It may have convinced Garber that this was the guy, but he would need something more substantial if he were to ask for a search warrant.

When you combine the relatively limited number of people who have been trained to drive the trains, the disgruntled ex-employee bit, the lack of any alibi, the fact that he matches the basic description that they would have from the passengers by then (and, having the bodies of the others, they would know that the mustaches and glasses shouldn't be part of the real description), *and* the sneeze:

My bet is that would add up to enough probable cause to get a warrant.

As soon as they get to look around inside the apartment, of course, they'll have all the proof that they need.

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True. Half the people in New York were probably sneezing.

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Of course the motorman was stupid enough to go home. Note the dynamic of the group. Robert Shaw's character was the "brains" of the outfit who was running the show; the other guys were just idiots who were there to do their small part and blindly follow his orders without thinking.

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I thought Mr. Green went home because that's where he and Mr. Blue were going to meet. He didn't know Blue was dead because he'd already climbed onto the sidewalk before Blue killed himself. Maybe if he'd realized Blue was "cooked," he wouldn't have gone home.

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At first, long ago, I thought the same as you but, considering that the Lt. had little to go on and that some cops/detectives are big on 'hunches' it seems just enough to get him started and work him until hes satisfied he was innocent and the sneeze coincidental (or the opposite).
As far as going home though I think it was the smartest thing for a guy like him to do.
If a neighbor swears he saw him out on the street etc, simply stick to the story "I was home all day in bed - I'm sick and had to go into work that night. I don't know why so and so (witness) says they saw me out on the street but they are wrong' (word against word).
When the Lt arrived he was found in his pjs and a bathrobe looking like he had indeed spent the day sick in bed. If I had a problem with playing that sneeze hunch it would have been just that which took me off his trail - he really did look like they caught him home and sick and bed.
The problem would have been, had they got a search warrant within the hour, the money sitting there in that tiny apartment would have surely been found.
Hmmm... unless there was an area in his apartment house he could sneak to without being seen to stash the money or a neighbor he could trust with his life (and cash), his goose was cooked - and yes, just because of that ill timed sneeze. Without that money in that amount, they had little to go on. Then again, plenty of older people have been known to stash large amounts of money in their homes so, thinking about this again, considering they were unmarked smaller bills, I don't know that Walter had a damn thing even if they had found it - unless of course they could produce several bills with strong finger prints matching one of those who packed/handled the money... that prints from someone who had handled the money were found, had I been on the jury, the prints would be enough to convince me of his guilt.

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It's explained a bit more in the novel.

Green/Longman going back to his place was actually planned. As Blue/Ryder points out to him, as a fired motorman he'd be checked out by the police. Green is worried so he thinks he should hide out at Blue's apartment. Blue, however, points out to him that would actually make him look suspicious -if he suddenly didn't show up at his place. Blue points out that Green will simply be another name on a list to the police. Blue tells him that when the police come, not have anything too rehearsed -just something general like he'd gone for a walk, or something. In the book he only gets caught because he panics. Rather than following Blue's directions, he tries to escape out his window fire escape. The detective at the door hears the window going up, guesses what is going on, runs downstairs and apprehends him at the bottom.

So, Green going back home may seem stupid, but it was actually a fairly sound plan -to just appear like everything was normal. If he had disappeared, then he would've automatically gone to the top of the list of suspects; especially after other ex-motormen were crossed off the list for various reasons.

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SPOILERS... I agree; going home was the smart move. Being there, dressed for his sick-bed when the detectives came knocking, was the best alibi he could have had. Had he been holed-up somewhere else, he'd have topped the list of suspects. His only dumb move was giddily tossing the cash around. If he was intent on taking the money home (instead of, say, stashing it in a mini-storage unit), he should have secured it in a previously-prepared hiding place within a wall.

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