Moore - Non Threatening Bond


I guess with the Bond 50 out now, I have been rewatching the Bond movies and I'm not sure I like Roger Moore as Bond, he has the charm , however he always seems to get beaten up and he doesn't look like he has the physical skill you would expect of a top agent. I guess I'm spoiled by Connory and Craig who you know would put up a fight against anyone.

It's just a different feeling with Moore, he doesn't appear physically threatening in those situations.

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Moore's Bond could be friendly, charming, and sometimes downright silly, but he could also be pretty brutal at times as well.

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In For Your Eyes Only, Bond kills Locque in cold blood by knocking his car off of a ledge. Locque has been wounded, he has no real means of defending himself, and he's trapped in a car which is teetering over a ledge. Bond tosses him a pin with a dove on it, Locque's symbol, and kicks the car which sends it over the edge. It's not played for laughs either.

In The Spy Who Loved Me, Bond killed henchman Sandor in a similar manner. Sandor was leaning off of the ledge of a building and holding onto Bond's tie for support. Bond asked him where the man he was looking for was, then backhanded his tie and sent Sandor to his death in spite of Sandor giving him the desired information.

From the same film, he shot Stromberg in the testicals and in the stomach, then left him to die. He's last seen bleeding and clinging to the table, but still alive for the moment. Bond was also going to drop Jaws to his death in a furnace, but the producers realized that Jaws was probably going to be popular and decided to keep him alive for the next film.

Roger Moore's Bond was undoubtedly the nicest and most smortsmanlike, but he had some downright cold moments in his own right.

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Moore's performances are so all over the place when you look through his movies. There's the ones where he's ice cold and fierce like Golden Gun and Eyes Only. Ones where he's slapstick comedy like Live and Let Die and Moonraker. Ones where he blends both like Octopussy and The Spy who Loved me.

Connery and Craig are so far the only ones to maintain some level of consistency.

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Moore always said he knew he couldn't emulate Connery's superhuman persona, and figured that since such a character couldn't possibly exist for real, that he'd play the part tongue-in-cheek.

In terms of Man With The Golden Gun, sure, he has the jokes, but his initial treatment of Maud Adams is very cruel and Connery-like. Moore also did ok with action scenes in his early Bond films such as this one; the punch up that ends with the line "I've lost my charm!" is a good one. My overall view of him is, and has been for a long time, that his biggest mistake was staying for two films too long and I'm sure he feels the same way in retrospect.

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It's true he stayed on too long, but I did think he was great in Octopussy.

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he's cool. as sometimes less is moore.



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I agree with the original poster here, I consider Moore the 'worst' Bond. Not in the sence of bad though, I'm a huge Bond fan and I believe that all the actors to play Bond have done a good job. That being said Moore was too tame and silly at times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pQcn2L65J0

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solid points.




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Oh, and that has soley to do with Moore... and not the scripts he was given!? Right.

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Oh, and that has soley to do with Moore... and not the scripts he was given!? Right.


Not to mention the direction by the directors.

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The Man With the Golden Gun finds Moore at his most ruthless, as he is in For Your Eyes Only and my favourite of his Bonds, Live and Let Die; so I disagree that he was completely non threatening.

The best thing about Moore as Bond I find is that he has everything, and, I enjoy the humour he brought to the part. He was also vulnerable and did get beaten up (as all Bonds did) not that Bond films are realistic, but, the main guy has to come across as human after all.

Moore was my era for Bond, and I find the Bonds after weren't quite to my taste as the humour wasn't quite how he would do it. GoldenEye is my favourite Bond after Moore finished, The Living Daylights was good too.

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The problem with Moore's Bond is that it's inconsistent. There's no balance. He's heavy on intimidation in For Your Eyes Only but light on the humor. In Moonraker he's mainly humor and no intimidation. Same with Live and Let Die.

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Moore's Bond was consistent, he was cool, friendly, charming, and sometimes goofy but he still showed a cold and brutal side of Bond's character when he had to. Like here in TMWTGG he was smashing a guys head against the wall during the fight with the club bouncers in that small room and then later he slaps Maud Adams around, something I didnt expect from Moore's Bond..

Also Moore's Bond is the most clever one.

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Agreed, and also in The Spy Who Loved Me.

He's got plenty of humorous moments in that but also puts about four bullets in Stromberg, and coldly knocks the guy off the roof and just fixes his tie.


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Writer Tom Mankiewicz talked about this in interviews. He wrote for Connery and Moore. He said something like, "With Connery you could have him sit down at a table with a beautiful woman and he could kiss her or kill her and both would work. With Moore, it would seem cruel for him to kill her." He wasn't saying this as a critique on Moore, whom he liked. He was merely pointing out a key difference.

This is why some of Moore's more brutal moments feel truly shocking. Take for instance that moment in Octopussy: Few people talk about the moment when he's on the train and the Russian soldier enters. Bond turns and shoots the soldier in the head. The soldier's face is one of pure surprise and he falls over, dead. The moment always disturbed me (especially as a kid) in part because it feels so brutal and almost cruel. You don't laugh. You just go, "Wow. Holy ****."

Is this a bad thing? I don't think so. I think such moments SHOULD feel brutal and cruel. It SHOULD be shocking. So one could argue that Moore's portrayal allows for such moments more-so than someone like Craig who feels right at home doing the more brutal things. It doesn't shock because you expect it. Do you see what I mean? Hopefully I'm explaining my opinion nicely.

Anyway, I love Connery and Craig too. I'm just saying Moore's 007 was also great... Just in a different way. It's nice to get so many different styles... All playing the same character.

Having said that, Moore got better over time. If you've only seen him in Live And Let Die and this one... KEEP GOING. He gets better and better.

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Roger Moore was my favorite Bond and it's not even close! He was suave sophisticated and classy! I don't even watch the Bond movies that Moore was not in!

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I can definitely relate to how you feel! Because for me.....if it's not SEAN CONNERY....I don't even want to see 'em!



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Would you go tell mama 4 me?

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Moore was the weakest Bond IMO. Never did care for him, or his Bond films for that matter. My bottom 3 Bond films are all Moore's. Maybe bottom 4.

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Roger Moore had the coldest kills of all the Bonds because he wouldn't hesitate to kill a unarmed man with a smile on his lips and crack a joke afterwards.

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