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Rating on this and most other films


By clicking on the MORE button we can see the demograph for the votes. I have known this movie since it came out. I have seen it in Soviet Union, Germany, and other countries and own a copy of it and thought it should be higher than 8.1 so I did a bit of study.
I have discovered that every film that has depth, hidden meanings and emotions other than love is rated much lower by females than males! This is regardless of violence and war. I did this of 120 films.
Why is that?

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I don't claim to know about females under 18. I'm female - but a lot older than 18 - and I can honestly say that this is one of my top 5 films of all time of any kind. I can't imagine why it is so much less well known and so much less readily available than the rest of Kurosawa's work. It has enchanted me when I was happy and has comforted me in bereavement. I have encouraged all my friends and family to watch it and they all agree that it's wonderful - the women have been as enthusiastic as the men.

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Here's an idea: go back and investigate the demographics of all those films that were checked. It will become apparent that the number of men voting on movies throughout the IMDb is far greater than the number of women, sometimes astronomically so. It's certainly true of "Dersu Uzala." Logically, reasonably, the only way a true sampling of gender differences could be obtained is if an equal number of women voted on the films. They may have other things to do. The only real conclusion that can be drawn here is that more men than women get on the internet, and onto this site, to express their opinion.

Yes, I too have studied this amusing phenomenon, especially on lower rated movies that I like. I've come to the conclusion that the clear age differences are more significant than the gender difference, and not so much an indicator of IQ as it is an inevitable generational bias. For that matter within the gender gap, it seems women 40 and over are generally much more in agreement with their male counterparts, even when far fewer of them vote.

I think this has much to do with the maturation process, how each gender exhibits it, and undeniable cultural influences. Young women and teenage girls are facing a world that not only allows them more freedom than their grandmothers, but demands they live up to their "have it all" opportunities. They're also going through the turmoil of "individuation": the final growth spurt in which their minds become separate from their families and they stake out their own identities.

Over and over in my own life I've seen a willingness and drive on the part of young women and teen girls to assert a hypercritical stance with anyone who gets in their way, especially in business, but also in personal relationships, and the more intelligent the young woman, the more likely she is to be severely critical of art, and extremely competitive in discussions about it.

Here's something else to look at: votes among men take a sharp dip in their thirties, precisely the point at which the male of the species is finally taking seriously the careers that women have already been concerned about for some time. I'm not going to toss around accusations about IQ, or declarations about intelligence. Rather, I think the IMDb votes are less about a film's quality than they are a snapshot of current cultural values. There are many films in the top 250 that I wouldn't watch again without being paid for it.

8.1 is pretty doggone high for any film, however, considering that there are innumerable films rated far lower which deserve at least an 8, if not higher.

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"I have discovered that every film that has depth, hidden meanings and emotions other than love is rated much lower by females than males! "

Well the explanation is simple and straightforward, isn't it:

Women are, on average, dumber and less sensitive to art. Not very PC, but truth is rarely PC.

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I think it's fairly simple. Most movies are made by and for men. It might not be too interesting for a woman to see a movie about men as it is for men. Check out "deep" (lol) titles that deal with modern women and you'll notice that the female score is higher than the male, for instance Volver and Sophie Scholl - Die letzten Tage. I can understand it, i like movies about men better than those about women.

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Great response...

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Some of my favorite movies is about women: "Life of o haru", "Katharina blums lost honor", "Sansjo dayo". "Volver" and "The hours" were pretty good too. Oh, by the way, i'm a guy.

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Isn't this film about love?

Under the Paving Stones, The Beach

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Females are wired to respond to love and men are more analytical. I agree this film should be much higher. I gave it a 10, it's a masterpiece.

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Well, I'm pretty sure that my own category (females 45+) is infested with trolls/sock puppets/vote stuffing accounts.

For what it's worth, I rated Dersu Uzala 8/10.

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