Well I just saw the movie, I thought it was amazing.
I just have one question:
Is it me or Katie actually smoked during her pregnancy?
Back then,they didn't know the result to the baby's health.
shareDon't ascribe today's knowledge (and fears) to forty or fifty years ago. Lots and lots of prospective mothers smoked and drank all the way through pregnancy. We act today as if one cigarette or one drink is guaranteed to produce a low birthweight handicapped child. These things increase the chance of that, but most babies were still born healthy back then.
shareHubbell did say "she's little".
All babies are little.
sharei totally noticed that and i was like wtf???
con el amor todo se puede y tu lo sabes
Oh, yes. Smoked and drank. In one scene she is smoking and drinking at the same time, but the most "shocking" to our modern sensibilities is probably the scene in bed where she's smoking and resting her hand on her obviously pregnant belly. Like others have said, though, you have to put it in the context of the time period.
shareLots of things were so different years ago. We would be shocked and freaked out today over a woman smoking during pregnancy, but not back then.
Also, baby car seats. My mom brought my siblings and me home from the hospital in her arms. She just held us in the front seat....possible, gasp, even without her seat belt on!! Car seats weren't even though of!!
We were born in '66, '69, and '75
And, while I'm on the topic, there were no disposable diapers for the first two of us!! Can you imagine??????
Thank you, adragn...
What do people think??? It's funny how our mothers and grandmothers talk about it...yeah we smoked and drank. Nobody knew what it did to babies. Some of us even came out of all that healthy. :) All though to be fair, my mom didn't start smoking and drinking until both her kids were born.
Car seats weren't invented when I was born '68...I don't even remember them until the 80's when my brother was born.
Shocking for all you young 'uns, isn't it?
All though to be fair, my mom didn't start smoking and drinking until both her kids were born.
In the 60's, it wasn't even uncommon to see vehicles with NO seatbelts!
My Mother drove a black VW Bug from Arkansas to Iowa with my newly born brother wrapped up in blankets and placed on the passenger side floor board of the car.
AND...get this...when JFK was shot, my Mother also said that she and I were in the car and the news announcement came on the radio, and I was standing up in the seat next to her...not even seated. I actually can remember one time when she had to hit the brakes and I was thrown into the dashboard, and had quite a bump on my head.
On many occasions, even until the late 70's, my brother and I rode in the back of the pickup truck when we would come back from a weekend of swimming at the lake, 30 miles from our house. We were only 8 or 9 years old at the time!
That was NOT unusual back then! They weren't negligent parents - no one thought a thing about it.
Thinking back on it, I don't even remember ever hearing of anyone getting hurt because of the above - of course, the great potential was there, but sometimes I wonder if we're overly cautious now, therefore leading to a paranoid and litigation-happy society.
people drink and smoke today TOO (its not like bodies changed) and have healthy babies. i know at least 3 women who did.
shareWhen I was a young kid (mid to late '60s), my mother stood out at a party because she was one of the few adults that DIDN'T smoke; I remember a party at our house, with a crowd of 25-30 people, and she was literally the only one there without a weed hanging from her lips. However, I also remember standing up in the back seat of our '61 Impala as she drove to the grocery store!
sharemy mother at least smoked through all three of her pregnancies in the 80's gramted the middle unplaned one end in a miscarriage at about 10 weeks and neather of us ended up low birth weight though I ended up with problems from a traumatic birth and adverse reactions to childhood vacinations so in some ways certain things haven't changed much since 1973
"why are you married to him then if you can't work with him how do you live with him?"
Doctors actually used to Rx smoking back then. They would have you smoke to calm nerves, etc. They had women smoke to have smaller babies. It was very different then, they just didn't know how dangerous smoking was. They do now.
shareI actually quit for my pregnancies during the 70's and 80's and lots of people including my gp thought I was quaint and a health fanatic!!
shareHi I'm just watching the moving now and it seems like quite a few folks are smoking. I was born in 1960 and my husband in 1956, and both of our mother's smoked while they were pregnant with us. I was flabergastged when I found out and hurt because I have asthma (could be from my father's side as well - allergies). All my life I have known and/or had family members die from emphysema or lung cancer. Now that we know their killing effects we can stay clear of these things. IMO they should be taken off the market.
shareI think the point of women smoking during pregnancy has been well made here. I lived with my mother who was a heavy smoker, she died at 59 from emphysema, and I had a cold all of the time. My parents had divorced right after I was born. I went to live with my father at age 13 and by then he had quit smoking. Once I got settled into his smoke free home my cold disappeared. I don't smoke and have never been attracted to cigarets so I think I can rest my case. Our parents and grandparents did not know the hazards of smoking so we are better off today than they were. Of course, now we know the tobacco companies knew about it long before the cat got out of the bag. They still never missed a chance to use doctors, the media, movies, and peer pressure to try to sell their product. A rare case where free enterprise was abused.
shareBack before the 70's, pregnant mothers and their doctors (who also smoked) didn't make the association with smoking. Lots of premies were born.
Always the officiant, never the bride. http://www.withthiskissitheewed.com
I've known dozens of women that smoked while they were pregnant and not one of them had a small or unhealthy baby. I am not promoting it, just saying.
"Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and cauldron bubble."
I know lots of guys who lived through a war, but I don't recommend them either.
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As so many people have already noted, the dangers of smoking and/or drinking were unknown especially during pregnancy, and even though I know more now, I've still smoke. I had 5 kids during the 70s and early 80s and not one of them had or have any health problems. My OB doc would have me come to his office after the examination, and he always offered me a cigarette when he lit his. When I went to the hospital in labor, they always asked if I wanted a smoking or non-smoking room. The only thing we were cautioned about was that smoking could cause low birth weight babies. My SIL was 9.3 lbs, the kids' dad was 9.7, and my SIL's kids were all huge, almost 10 lbs. each. So I smoked because big babies obviously ran in the family and there was no way I was giving birth to a toddler who could out-crawl me. My first two kids were almost 8 pounds, so I didn't think much about smoking while pregnant after that.
shareJumping Christ this thread shows up in every movie set in the 30s-70s
I have a picture of my mother, holding me as an infant, pregnant, holding a cigarette, and a martini?
That's how life was before you were born, a lot of things were different.
Not better, just different, free'er
In a world where a carpenter can be resurrected, anything is possible.
Chill men! Haha. I posted this in 2006, almost 10 years ago. I didn't even remember about it untill I got an email notification from your reply. Not all humans process information or facts the same way, at the time I posted this I really found this mind blowing because of so much media backlash to the smoking industry. Now I don't give a what.
Cheers.
Just saw this movie. I bet the crib Hubbell put together at the end for Rachel was covered with lead paint!
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