Will the planet ever get this bad?
I'm beginning to doubt it.
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People have resorted to cannibalim before.
In the places in the world where there is mass starvation, culling out the herd by feeding some to the others, would leave the survivors strong and well fed.
It wouldn't be too good for the ones being consumed but they are going to die of starvation anyway.
And if they are processed like soylent green it might not taste so bad.
where did you get this idea that humans taste bad.
i assure you that is completely false humans are like a mix of steak and chicken
It does not work this way. (For humans, which are omnivores, not carnivores)
In the places in the world where there is mass starvation, culling out the herd by feeding some to the others, would leave the survivors strong and well fed.
It wouldn't be too good for the ones being consumed but they are going to die of starvation anyway.
In most cultures eating human flesh is taboo.
Thus, if the people wait until all food is depleted and the "herd" has emaciated, it is too late to gain sustenance from the starved individuals.
The body metabolizes the fat and leaves only muscle tissue. So, anyone relying on the starved members of the "herd", will receive almost no fat from the meat.
This strict protein diet creates a net loss of available BTUs, because Homo sapiens metabolisis of protein is not as efficient as breaking down carbohydrates and fats.
Furthermore, ketosis & kidney failure are the result of high or exclusive protein diets.
The bottom line is, that you better have a sufficient quantity of fruits, vegtables & grains to go along with your "herd" of neighbors.
But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"share
i'm not sure if we'll ever see the problem of food shortage worldwide. just think about the most densely populated areas currently in the world. take england, holland and belgium as examples. they are small to medium sized areas with high population densities. i have always wondered if these areas could actually sustain their populations without importing from other places. i think they probably can, but you'd maybe have to consume less meat and dairy etc, because it takes more energy to produce those things in comparison to crops.
but if the same kind of population densities that are in those areas spreads all around the world, that's when we'll face a food shortage, because there's no low density areas to take food from anymore (apart from deserts, arctic and mountain regions which cannot produce much food). then again, you could take hydroponics bays and stack them and stack them on top of on another in multistory buildings. but you'd need an inexhaustable source of power to do that. probably from next gen nuclear type power stations which could use a completely renewable fuel forever (think about it, when spent nuclear fuel is still producing radiation for umpteen million years, that means it's still producing energy - it's just that we don't know how to utilise that and continue to create electricity from it).
as for the whole population increasing exponentially, well you've got areas (ironically places like england, holland and belguim etc) that have naturally had population stabalisation, but when that happens you get poorer people from elsewhere migrating in and doing the whole mass breeding thing again. we'd need to get to the stage where the whole world was more educated, healthy and wealthy, so that couples don't just have as many children as they possibly can just because alot of the kids will die anyway (but you all already know that they are many more reasons why people in poorer countries have sooo many kids)
The world's population is increasing logarithmically, from about 1B in 1900 to 2B in 1950 to 6B today and to a projected 12B by 2050. The major point of the movie is that it doesn't matter how you produce food, energy, or any other commodity. At some point, with increasing population, you run out of everything and the population crashes.
Of course, no one seems to have learned from the movie (or anyplace else) that the carrying capacity of the planet is finite. It's a shame, too, because population growth underlies so many other social problems -- air and water pollution, the price of energy and food, urban sprawl, crime rates, habitat destruction, global warming, and a spiritual loss which is very hard to label.
This movie was made in 1972. At that time the population of the United States was a bit more than 200M. It's recently passed 300M. That's an increase of 50 percent and no one cares. The fact that some of this is due to immigration isn't relevant. It's our Space Ship and it's rapidly becoming overloaded.
I don't care because it is a self-correcting spaceship. If the population of humans gets to large for the planet to sustain then the planet will kill off most of the humans and destroy most of our civilization. Then we can all go back to manual labor and/or hunting 16 hours a day just to survive. The only real question is when this will happen.... My guess is about 500 years down the road since the first actions of the planet will be to slow population growth before it tops out and kills most of us off.
share"SELF CORRECTING SPACESHIP", just as many other good sounding ideas is pretty stupid because it would be fine if we were not talking about life survival.
Try sell that to dinosaurs and the whole lot of extint species.
This planet only makes sense as long as it's able to sustain some sort of concious life. If not, it's just as any of the empty rocks and stones flying across the universe.
The problem shown in this movie is not overpopulation but the environment destruction. This planet probably could keep 100 billion human beings if we get rid of the cars, the mindless energy consumption and waste, the excessive waste generation, simple stuff like that.
If pigs had wings the sh*t of this world would be perfectly shared
Hysterical nonsense! The world's greatest resource is the ingenuity of human beings, the stuff of liberty. Our poster is just another mindless robot marching in lock-step fashion toward statism, eager to get his Hitler on. Nuclear Power, for example, is virtually limitless. Technological advances always solve problems; tyranny is the only thing that stifles them.
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Technology solves a great deal, if left to a robust free market unfettered by non-productive government automatons. I find it more than a bit relevant that no parties are hinted at as both could produce the kind of social environment in the film. Statist progressives would love this type of world. Sooo easy to control with the benevolence of their superior intellect.
If you look at the birth rates around the developed world, Europe is actually in a slow decline. The US is slightly better off with a reasonable replacement rate. China's "one child" policy will actually come back to bite them as the young male population far exceeds the female population. Population is exploding in Africa and the Middle East.
....and yes, OP, immigration is relevant.
Look at the technology available to the average poor person. It far exceeds anything the very rich had access to in the 60's and early 70's. Far more arable land is this country lies fallow than is in production. None of the situations in this film are even close to starting to happen. Recall that this was the time of enviro wackjobs and the coming ice age. The Earth is indeed a self-correcting mechanism. The effect of man is so negligible that it is only the overly arrogant that would presume that we could have that kind of effect. It's hot in summer. Really....who knew? Now, the progtarded academics are at it again with it's the hottest year on record... crap. Bull.
Industry is leaps and bounds more efficient than when this movie came out. The economy has gone "greener" on it's own than any boondoggle the federal government could come up with to bankrupt this country. Government wants only more power and control. That includes the squishy elitist moderate Repubs along with the Maoist Dems.
Good post, BTW.
Technological advances always solve problems; tyranny is the only thing that stifles them.
- i think that part of the film's message is that tyranny would increase and prevail as the problems facing modern society become impossible to solve, and with resources vanishing. "the ocean's dying, plankton's dying..."
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