ok just watched this movie again for first time in a few years,so i watch it and yeah we are getting closer to a reality that could resemble this some day,my point is if you are living in a world with no resources,animals,limited plant life and bascially your starveing everyday,and over population, is it really so bad that humans are recycled and eaten to keep the rest of the population going? i understand that in 1973 this notion would be seen as extreme and maybe today as well,but with riseing population growth to stagering levels do out views change on this in 2010.remeber were not talking about people being bumped off to make soylent,just the natural dying people,or people victims of crimes and processed. i dont want to go down the road of yeah but eventually they would start death squads or whatever,in line with the keeping of the movie just natural death,would processing them to feed a starveing world really be a bad thing?
"The resources are being depeleted or retarded due to Marxist Leninist philosophy being waged on the economies of the world. Once we replace these leaders then this movie won't become true."
Yes, because capitalist corporations have proven themselves to be responsible stewards of the planet's resources...
everyone wants their 'fair share', some want yours too...
somehow Ayn Rand turned being a selfish prick into a virtue.
same amount of pie, more people coming to the table everyday... result... smaller slice of pie.
save your political ideologies for when you're screaming at your tv news broadcasts, you retards.
Malthusian philosophy... more organisms are present than could ever be supported to adulthood, even two elephants allowed to freely reproduce would end up covering the world in elephants within a fairly short period of time given unlimited resources and lack of predators...
2% of the American population controls 95% of the wealth. while the other 99% of the population work like slaves for minimum wage (which is around $5US per hour). In 'socialist' Australia the minimum wage is $15 per hour ($1AUS = $1.05US, who's got the pesos now lol),plus bonuses for weekends & night time or public holidays.
Aussie kids working at Macdonalds earn more than a first year commercial pilot ($20k per year) in the USA! An unemployed adult in Australia gets more on the dole ($560 per fortnight, $280 per week) than a factory worker does in the USA!!! And not only is our weather is better, you have a far less chance of getting murdered here. ;) Enjoy your 'Tea Party' lolz.
PS: Americans always confuse socialism with totalitarianism, learn the difference. And yes, the worlds resources are finite, & while the population grows, it's only logical that resources will eventually become scarce.
Hey blakjak_cc save your anti-American pinko scum propaganda for the proletariat masses!!
on an UTTERLY MINOR side note...uh... hmmm....uh... how would one (say some COMPLETELY hypothetical someone with advanced degrees in biology/ecology/marine science) emigrate to Australia? just asking... PURELY out of intellectual curiosity... Yes. just curious... like emigration forms, consulate? emigration lawyer, pursue Australian citizenship, etc...
Also, would I be required to eat Vegemite? - oops... I mean a 'friend' of mine who wants to emigrate to Australia... yes. A 'friend'...
2% of the American population controls 95% of the wealth. while the other 98% of the population work like slaves for minimum wage (which is around $5US per hour). In 'socialist' Australia the minimum wage is $15 per hour ($1AUS = $1.05US, who's got the pesos now lol),plus bonuses for weekends & night time or public holidays.
Aussie kids working at Macdonalds earn more than a first year commercial pilot ($20k per year) in the USA! An unemployed adult in Australia gets more on the dole ($560 per fortnight, $280 per week) than a factory worker does in the USA!!! And not only is our weather is better, you have a far less chance of getting murdered here. ;) Enjoy your 'Tea Party' lolz.
PS: Americans always confuse socialism with totalitarianism, learn the difference. And yes, the worlds resources are finite, & while the population grows, it's only logical that resources will eventually become scarce.
Anyway, yeah, not all americans are dumb. As a matter of fact we're basically on lockdown here. The country has gone into full propaganda mode. From what I've heard from many friends around the world, every country is falling into disarray. I don't know how things are going in Australia now, but I can promise you when all the other countries fall down, they're gonna take you with them. The aussie needs to get off his high horse and quickly realize that we're seeing the foundation work of WWIII being formed. Or for all we know, Australia is in utter chaos and they're trying to keep it under wraps like the usa is, and he's just a deluded fool thinking the ship is sailing smoothly; god knows I talk to people like that everyday in the usa. Yup, the country's going great...loving the jobless, houseless, deficit laced recovery!
"Well don't worry, once we get all of the TEA party candidates, not only here in the United States but around the world things will be fine again."
So the Tea Party and their policies are the deus ex machina that will magically solve all our problems? LOL. (Hint: I don't believe any one set or agenda of policies hatched from any one political party will make everything "fine again"--I may have been naive/wishful-thinking enough to sort of believe something like that long ago, but certainly not now.)
That's an intelligent way to begin a sentence - with the combination of "anyway" and "yeah". Well, at least you are using proper punctuation and starting your sentence with a capital letter and ending it with a dot.
"Not all americans are dumb" just sounds a lot like:
- "Not all women are like that" - "Not all carnivores like meat" - "Not all feminists are illogical" - "Not all black people like having privileges the white people can't dream of" - "Not all North-Korean leaders are tyrants, dictators and egomaniacs" - "Not all transportation pollutes" - "Not all Jews love money" - "Not all policemen/women are high on power and love to behave aggressively" - "Not all lawyers pervert justice" - "Not all midgets are short"
"The answer to your question, corturia2, can found in a quote from the movie:
"The next thing you know, they'll be breeding us like cattle" "
No, Matineeguy, that's not logical. It costs a lot more food to grow one than you get from one, so it makes no sense. That's just an illogical, emotional line in the movie.
And breeding a cattle is cheaper too. A human has to many years to grow to get to a slaughter weight. Actually they should breed rabbits when they want meat. Sure using normal dead people is cheaper. Good recycling.
--- Lincoln Lee: I lost a partner. Peter Bishop: I lost a universe!
Going on the internet, you always find the most amazing arguments for the most ridiculous or horrifying things. I like to keep a collection of them to use in short stories and the like, to get a better idea of how people can rationalize horrific behavior. I hadn't found an argument in favor of cannibalism yet, but thanks to you, I can now add it to my list.
"ok just watched this movie again for first time in a few years,so i watch it and yeah we are getting closer to a reality that could resemble this some day,my point is if you are living in a world with no resources,animals,limited plant life and bascially your starveing everyday,and over population, is it really so bad that humans are recycled and eaten to keep the rest of the population going? i understand that in 1973 this notion would be seen as extreme and maybe today as well,but with riseing population growth to stagering levels do out views change on this in 2010.remeber were not talking about people being bumped off to make soylent,just the natural dying people,or people victims of crimes and processed. i dont want to go down the road of yeah but eventually they would start death squads or whatever,in line with the keeping of the movie just natural death,would processing them to feed a starveing world really be a bad thing?"
I think getting to the point where such is even considered, let alone becomes "necessary", would be a horribly bad thing. We see throughout the movie how human beings, and lives, are severely devalued--crowds getting scooped and shoveled "out of the way" by heavy machinery as if they were trash on the street, suicide more widely preferred by many than the desperate life they have, etc. The world beginning to end with a very long whimper.... I realize the phrase "that bad" is relative, but we can surmise that, relative to present times even (except in some fairly desperate parts of the Third World), it was getting "pretty bad" well before the cannibalism started.
If you're talking about moral/ethical judgment of producing the Soylent Green product itself, I don't think the movie was meant to have us morally judge the hidden cannibalism under the circumstances (although it was designed to shock the viewer, certainly), but rather the entire situation and whatever actions (or inactions) we may have taken to get to that point in the first place.
It's probably best to do so in an orderly way (some law and order) than say 'The Road' by Cormac McCarthy.
For example, it's probably best to not know you're eating people in green Neco wafer form, rather than knowing you're eating a roasted headless newborn baby like in 'The Road' - oddly, that scene in the novel wasn't used in the movie.
It would be a ridiculous resource if it has to be moral. People dying of natural causes usually don't qualify as "good eatin'". And though there would probably be a great deal of crime-victims, it still creates a lot of problems. Like when resources become so low that the poorest start to kill just to increase the supply.
The day people starts eating people in an organized manner, is the the day that I stop speaking to the rest of you with the use of anything else than a twin-bladed war axe. On that day, I won't give two *beep* about society or the species.
Basically it's a hypothetical question of: How desperate do you have to be?
And, in all honesty, we don't produce enough food naturally on a global scale now to feed everyone. Without genetically modified food that so many people demonize, soylent green would already be on store shelves.
People die and fertilize the ground. Basically, we have been eating dead people since the dawn of times. This movie dramatizes the concept but, in the end, shows nothing strange.
'What has been affirmed without proof can also be denied without proof.' (Euclid)