While examining articles from the past, Miles comes upon an item of the NRA, and he remarks that it was a bunch of lunatics who wanted to shoot up everybody.
What acts of violence have been perpetrated by members of the NRA?
Juan Jose Morales, who has not handled firearms since his US Army discharge in 1976.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
The NRA has never been violent. In fact, they promote gun safety. Negative stereotypes of gun owners are held by people who are ignorant about guns and gun ownership.
Same thing is true for stereotypes held about anything; NASCAR, Opera, Country Music, Science Fiction, etc.
It's a frakking JOKE
Lighten up, Francis!
It was a one-liner in a Woody Allen movie from 36 years ago. It wasn't a Michael Moore documentary. Just one line! If you cannot laugh at yourself then you probably cannot laugh at all.
shareI always assumed Erno's Underground registered all their weapons with The Leader.
share...........I think the joke is more a reflection of Woody Allen,s ah wimpy liberal urban persona then the NRA. His character probably thinks chess is a violent blood sport.
True genius is a beautiful thing, but ignorance is ugly to the bone.
I think the joke is more a reflection of Woody Allen,s ah wimpy liberal urban persona then the NRA
What acts of violence have been perpetrated by members of the NRA?
He (Timothy McVeigh) also quit the NRA, viewing its stance on gun rights to be too weak. (WIKI bio of Timothy McVeigh)
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Even if morons want to blame the Oklahoma City bombing on the NRA (what next? The St. Valentine's Day Massacre as the work of whatever political party Al Capone belonged to?), what you would have is something like this:
NRA: 168
The State: 150,000,000. (And that's the 20th Century alone, and not counting victims of war but just those whacked by their own governments.)
And yet which one do "liberals" love, and wish to give more power to?
Weird.
Actually it's "conservatives" that love war. "Liberals" are against it.
NRA is not a violent organization. They support their constitutional right to bear arms. But, they also fight for gun rights with non-members, again protected by the constitution, but that cause problems with "liberals." Guns are a major problem that result in thousands of deaths in urban areas, liberals aim to try to restrict guns getting into poor neighborhoods, and the NRA fights it. By this token, I think you can bump that number up...And 150,000,000? lol
The 150,000,000 figure may not be exact, but it's in the ballpark. I don't have the chapter-and-verse before me but the figure (whatever it is, and it's enormously high) comes from a social scientist who has studied State-ordered homicides in countries around the world during the 20th Century. If you want to get his name and the title of his study to check his sources yourself, he's mentioned in the foreword of Jim Powell's great book, THE TRIUMPH OF LIBERTY, a study of champions of liberty down through the ages. Given the records of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al, it seems like a reasonable estimate to me and may even be an under-estimate. What would you put the figure at?
Since gun-laws haven't been able to stop the availability of guns in "urban areas," blaming the NRA for gun deaths (instead of the actual causes, like ghetto stupidity) is illogical; but then if you were logical, you wouldn't be a "liberal," since you guys value "compassion" (preferably exercised at someone elses expense) over reason.
Oh I see, so you were moronic enough to compare our government to Hitler, Stalin, Mao....hahahahaha
The NRA is a U.S. organization, so we should only compare to the U.S. Government. I can assure you Hitler, Stalin and the like used their fair share of guns.
But this is pointless...For some reason conservatives like to think that liberals are in favor of Hitler. Hitler eliminated a whole section of the population based on their race - I think this has better ties to American conservatives? He was a social conservative, much like the Christian Right of our country. I like how you believe that people in the liberal urban areas are stupid and illogical, when in fact cities like New York, Boston, San Francisco, Chicago, and Los Angeles have the best schools in the world.
"Oh I see, so you were moronic enough to compare our government to Hitler, Stalin, Mao....hahahahaha."
No, not really. Go back and re-read what I actually wrote. Take your time; move your lips as you do. No one's watching. Then come back.
Or maybe it's not a reading comprehension problem as much as the feigned-reading-comprehension-problem,a favorite "liberals" (i.e., State-f@ckers) so that they can misrepresent what pro-freedom people have written and go for their stock-in-trade, the "straw man."
OK, I'll make it real simple--simple enough for the average Obama voter to understand. It's not comparison as much as recognizing different entities as being part of the same genus or species. (I can never remember which is which; I had the same problems with science that your average "liberal" has with eocnomics, history and logic.) Any state, however benign (and ours gets less and less so, especially under the reign of the Troika, Reid, Pelosi and "Il Dufe" is still The State. The Corleone family may be more violent and rapacious tnan the Lucchese family--or less-- but they're both the Mafia. Think you can digest that, Aristotle?
The social scientist I mentioned who did the estimate of the State's body count in the 20th Century pointed out, as I recall, that the bloodiest states of the most absolute ones. (Hitler, Stalin, etc.) The point being that the citizenry is the safest when the government is limited rather than absolute.
"I can assure you Hitler, Stalin and the like used their fair share of guns." Yes, they did. The modern State is based on the power of the gun. (Just as earlier ones were based on the power of the spear, the sword, etc.) And like most dictators, they wanted to have a monopoly on the guns. For that reason, once their gangs get in power, they want to disarm the populace.
."..For some reason conservatives like to think that liberals are in favor of Hitler."
Straw man. I'm not a conservative, but I'm probably more familiar with conservative writings than you are (in fact, I'd be surprised if you came out of your cocoon long enough to actually read conservatives writers), but could you show me any conservatives have actually said that?
Hitler eliminated a whole section of the population based on their race - I think this has better ties to American conservatives? He was a social conservative, much like the Christian Right of our country. I like how you believe that people in the liberal urban areas are stupid and illogical, when in fact cities like New York, Boston, San Francisco, Chicago, and Los Angeles have the best schools in the world.
"Hitler eliminated a whole section of the population based on their race - I think this has better ties to American conservatives?"
Staw man again. And again, you base this one what?
"He (Hitler) was a social conservative." Really? Could you give me some examples of his "social conservatism"? I'm not a social conservative, so the comparison is of purely academic interest to me, but somehow I missed the "social conservative" part of National Socialism. I do know that the Nazis were collectivists favoriing statist economics along with draconic gun-control. Who then would be more like a Nazi--your average social conservative, or you? Just wondering.
"While examining articles from the past, Miles comes upon an item of the NRA, and he remarks that it was a bunch of lunatics who wanted to shoot up everybody."
The actual line is “they were an organization that helped criminals get guns so they could shoot citizens. It was a public service.”
In other words: the Fast and Furious operation.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Another quote of Herr Allen:
it would be good ... if he (Obama) could be a dictator for a few years because he could do a lot of good things quickly. (Interview with LA VANGUARDIA, 2010)
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Yeah, I just don't think you can acquire a sense of humour. It's something innate that you have to be born with.
shareAllen lost his humour decades ago.
Go to
deviantART.com
and look up Belianis. Tell me how you like the portraits of the Presidents of the USA.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Allen is still the only director that I can rely on to have a truly satisfying film experience. I love his dramas as well. I realize that this is all subjective, but Allen and Pedro Almodovar are my favorite still working film makers.
shareThe fact that I'm not American makes something like HANNAH AND HER SISTERS a total puzzle to me. Why did that family behave in such an inconsiderate manner?
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Listen,even in America, most people who aren't from New York find Allen's films in general a total puzzle! I'm a born and bred New Yorker and the behaviour of the people in Hannah was totally natural to me! lol
shareI have been told that I should move to NYC because it is the artistic Mecca of the world. I'm not that enthusiastic about that because of the way that shows like SEINFELD portray the inhabitants of the city. I certainly did not like the comments that Jerry Orbach regularly made in LAW & ORDER that suggested that he dismissed everybody else in the USA as lowbrow uncouth provincials for whom the highborn Lennie Briscoe had nothing but contempt.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Well, I tell you, I can't imagine living anywhere else in this country. Aside from parts of the west coast and Chicago, I would be literally horrified to live anywhere else in America but New York City. But then again, my interests are almost exclusively theatre, film, and art. So I guess I'm a bit of a NY snob!
share
Is NYC as expensive as I'm told?
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
I live in a large studio apartment in Queens and my rent is a thousand a month. My mom bought a one bedroom a few blocks away. If she sold, she could get 300,000 for it. So compared to what you would pay to buy a huge house in say, Nebraska, I guess you could say it's expensive.
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What do you suggest for someone who would like to be close to NYC in order to make his art known? At present I'm one of the unemployed, and the one outlet I have for my art is Belianis at deviantART.com
I saw TRON: LEGACY yesterday; I have the kind of imagination suitable for visionary films of the type so popular today.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
There' always Long Island or Jersey. They're less expensive than the city but still close.
shareGut! When I was at NYC in 1964 to attend the 1964-65 World Fair I liked riding the subway.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
That was a great World's Fair!
shareIt sure was. I loved the dinosaurs of that petrol brand whose symbol was a brontosaurus; I loved to draw dinosaurs when I was 10, my age in 1964. Could it ever be possible to resurrect dinosaurs from their DNA, as is done in JURASSIC PARK? I would love to know what was the real coloration of the d; some artists paint them with the drab colours of the reptiles of today, while other artists portray them with pretty bright colours.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
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I have an Associate in Arts Degree from Hillsborough Community College and a Baccalaureate in Arts from the University of South Florida. I have Asperger's Syndrome, which protects me from pretentious ignorant ,,humour'' of the sort peddled by Allen.
As for the NRA, I don't belong to it. Rather, I don't trust the political judgment of someone who openly advocates--in post-Franco Spain--that the government of the USA be turned into a dictatorship.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
>I have Asperger's Syndrome, which protects me from pretentious ignorant ,,humour'' of the sort peddled by Allen.
translation:
"I have Asperger's Syndrome, which prevents me from understanding that Allen was being facetious when he made that comment about Obama."
by - HijodelCid on Wed Jul 2 2008 10:19:56
While examining articles from the past, Miles comes upon an item of the NRA, and he remarks that it was a bunch of lunatics who wanted to shoot up everybody.
What acts of violence have been perpetrated by members of the NRA?
Juan Jose Morales, who has not handled firearms since his US Army discharge in 1976.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Watching the movie, he's slamming pretty much everybody.
I've read some posts from rightwingers claiming it's anti-liberal but not many from liberals saying it's anti-rightwing (yet).
The truth is, it goes after everyone, either subtly or not, using something we call "absurdism" and/or "farce", and people responding are doing more to show their own foibles than making any coherent claims. But he's all over the map with his crafted verbal stingers.
So why are some people taking the movie so seriously, which only shows a massive insecurity complex on their part?
NRA does not create violence directly, however it creates violence indirectly by fighting for undeserved ability for people to own various high powered weapons for many reasons that exist only in mind of ignorant.
Most of "Shootings" happen with legally owned guns, most often with easy acess to them from other people. NRA fights for this right to exist.
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