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Really little John?...Really?

posted 13 years ago by snowy_658
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So explain this to me, how is it possible, the whole forest scene when they attack the "prince/king" lion character. First of all, they just HAPPEN to have a bag of womens clothes on them? Can you say cross dressers. Second, the damn huge bear is able to sneek underneath a bunch of Rhinos, easily drill a hole in the bottom of a metal chamber with a sword, with no problem what so ever, and no noise or movement of the chamber. THEN he is able to drain out all of the coins, with out dropping any, or having any noise from the coins dropping in his womens dress??? Come on Disney, we aren't that naive. He would of AT LEAST dropped 1 coin, AT LEAST! THEN, we are supposed to belive that his lung compacity is SO STRONG that he can just casually SUCK OUT diamons and rubys from a ring??? COME ON, really?...........really?.............REALLY????!!!!!

[–] Taran_Wanderer_2 13 years ago

...and during the archery tournament, among a crowd of more than twenty spectators, nobody notices that Trigger and the Sheriff are cheating, even though it's clear and everyone's watching them.

The Great Mouse Detective and Robin Hood suffer because they both abuse the audiences' acceptance of what is totally illogical. They are both clear examples of when writers were not at their best.

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[–] StrongRex 13 years ago

...and during the archery tournament, among a crowd of more than twenty spectators, nobody notices that Trigger and the Sheriff are cheating, even though it's clear and everyone's watching them.

I think they did notice that; that's why they booed (along with a snapshot of Marian's angry face). But of course Prince John is not going to do anything about it.

[–] a_rarden 12 years ago

suffer because they both abuse the audiences' acceptance of what is totally illogical

Yeah, because it's totally believable that mermaids exist and Ariel and can trade her voice for a pair of legs. And totally believable that a kiss can wake up a dead girl in a glass casket. And totally believable that an eagle acts as a chauffeur to mice instead of making lunch out of them.

Come on...it's a kids movie for Christ's sake!

[–] MetFanMac 13 years ago

This is not a completely serious movie (if Sir Hiss making a balloon float using CO2, a la The Looney Tunes, wasn't enough of a tipoff).
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlidingScaleOfSillinessVers usSeriousness

Supermodels...spoiled stupid little stick figures mit poofy lips who sink only about zemselves.

[–] Taran_Wanderer_2 13 years ago

Even worse was Sir Hiss blowing up the balloon with air that was already inside the balloon. Anyway, there's a line that can be crossed between comedy/fantasy and just plain illogical; specially when it affects the plot line.

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[–] MetFanMac 13 years ago

That seems to be a matter of opinion; personally I really enjoy silly stuff.

Supermodels...spoiled stupid little stick figures mit poofy lips who sink only about zemselves.

[–] Taran_Wanderer_2 13 years ago

I guess, if I accept "Robin Hood" as a 'cartoon' rather than an 'animated film' then I can be more open minded about its disregard for logic, but within the Disney canon, the label 'cartoon' is just as degrading to me.

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[–] christian-musician-252-419869 12 years ago

You fo realize that animals have been talking and walking upright the whole movie, right?

[–] RickDeckard83 11 years ago

Maybe you should stop masturbating your mind with this *beep* Come on, it's an animated movie for kids! Wtf are you talkin about???

[–] herbsuperb 11 years ago

A little rough in your wording, but essentially correct. Who cares. It's a kids movie. You really think the majority of people watching are like 'wow, that's amazing that he snuck by those rhinos without being caught'? Of course not, just enjoy it for what it is, in the moment. Stop thinking so hard.

[–] Taran_Wanderer_2 11 years ago

Yeah, because it's totally believable that mermaids exist and Ariel and can trade her voice for a pair of legs. And totally believable that a kiss can wake up a dead girl in a glass casket. And totally believable that an eagle acts as a chauffeur to mice instead of making lunch out of them.

Obviously you don't understand multiple concepts of what is logically acceptable. There is such a thing as logical fantasy, but I don't feel like explaining it to you.

I'll use my favorite Disney film to show I'm not biased. While The Rescuers features many surreal fantasy elements, these cannot be used to justify the fact that certain size scales are altered throughout the film. For example, Brutus and Nero appear gigantic compared to Penny during the earlier scenes, but later they seem to drastically decrease in size when she's standing right next to them. The fact that the film is a fantasy does not justify this example of what is an unjustifiable violation of logic even by fantasy standards.

"It's a kid's cartoon" is not a justification for poor writing, sorry to tell you that. That's degrading the work of other writers who work extra hard to create believable, logical storylines within fantasy worlds when working on other children's "cartoons" (preferably "animated films).

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[–] MovieGuy92 9 years ago

It's a cartoon, about talking animals. Don't overthink it, just watch, laugh, and enjoy.

[–] louiseculmer 9 years ago

i don't think people watch disney cartoons for the gritty realism.

[–] Taran_Wanderer_2 9 years ago

We're not talking about cartoons here (that's "Tom and Jerry" and the Donald Duck shorts); we're talking about animated films. There's a distinct difference and fantasy does not excuse lack of magical logic. Even the fantasy genre has to cling to certain degrees of logic and realism because it's not "everything goes."

After having the same signature for, what, ten years? I'm not sure what to put here now.

[–] louiseculmer 9 years ago

Well, you've got talking animals, a fox being looked after by a hen, and befriending little bunnies etc. there's not much logic in that. in real life, the fox would eat the hen and the bunnies. And he wouldn't be in an archery contest with a bear.