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Recycled Disney Animation...Haven't you seen it before?


If you watch the bonus features on the DVD, the makers talk about how they used scenes from Snow White in "The Phony King of England"
When Marian is dancing with the dog, this is the same dance Snow White did with the Dopey and the dwarves in the coat. They simply painted over this.

They did this several other times in the "PKingofEngland"
You see a "Chinese" bunny playing drums?
Same as the chinese cat from "everybody wants to be a cat"--Aristocats
Trumpet playing cat--Skat Cat...Painted over.

Little John is basically Baloo, but brown. Watch his eyes when he sings the PKOE. Its the same as Baloo's in "I wanna be like you"
Except, the monkeys have been transformed into bunnies.
Same dance too.

Marian also does the same body shake dance as dutchess the cat.

Heck, that chicken and Little John do the same exact dance as Louie and Baloo.
Again, I'm not making this up. Animators admit to painting over previous works. Maintaining characteristics, movements, etc. Just putting it into a different film. New colors. Etc.

Don't believe me?
Watch:

Phony King: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37bbj8HbM5I

Everybody wants to be a cat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNEraxj559Y

I wanna be like you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOcyYyxqN_g

Note similarities. :)

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Yeah, I also noticed the Sleeping Beauty/Friar Tuck fight last night when I was watching Sleeping Beauty! Besides just the music, the entire SCENE is recycled.
It was in Sleeping Beauty when Hubert and Stephan were fighting with the fish over their kids. The "my DAUGHTER will Marry ____" part. Friar Tuck pushed the sheriff with his belly, so did Hubert.

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Yes, well, from what I've heard, Disney was in a bit of a crunch when this came out; it would have been easier, and cheaper, to simply "recycle" and repaint scenes than completely do them all from scratch.

But, hey, what do I know; I'm one of those "'90's brats who wouldn't know good animation if it came up and bit me", but I digress.

Anyway, I agree whole-heartedly with those who say this is quality material; certainly better than some of the muck they're churning out nowadays.

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I've also noticed that Penny from "The Rescuers" ran the same way as Mowgli (the tripping and falling in puddles and running away) did in The Jungle Book.

I thought I was the only one who noticed these things, lol.

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Yeah, sadly this movie was under a very small budget so they had to do a lot of recycling. Still, it is my favorite Disney movie!

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All of Wolfgang Reitherman's Disney movies have serious problems with recycling past sequences. It kind of shows the sacrifices that Reitherman was forced to make during the Nixon/Ford/Carter years when Disney was not at its peak.

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People would stop using this as amuniton as Disney hate.

I also wish people would stop pointing it out as though they've never noticed it before - back when I was a kid, I saw all this the moment I saw it! As I am sure many of us did.

It's no big deal, in fact it looks kind of cool! Like when I watched the films I could enjoy the film for it self, and at the same time be reminded of one of my other favorite films. The whole thing makes me love Disney more than ever.

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I don't think people are mentioning these things to bash Disney...it was just something someone noticed and he/she was seeing if any of the rest of us noticed it :).

-Amanda

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Ok, I appologies - USUALLY it's anti Disney people who mention this. I hope I didn't offend anyone.

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It wasn't an uncommon practice in the late 70s to recycle animation. All of the studios did it. Budgets were lower. It had nothing to do with "laziness" like a lot of the people who point these things out imply.

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Beauty and the Beast also "borrowed" the final dance animation from Sleeping Beauty. The Little Mermaid recycled backgrounds from The Rescuers (not to mention that many of Ursula's character traits were taken from Mme. Medusa), and it is not something from the '70s, it is all around.

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I found Kaa from The Jungle Book similar to Sir Hiss. I noticed they had the Lady and The Tramp music score in one of the scenes.

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Disney, especially back in the day, is notorious for recycling animation.

Heck, you see Bambi's mom up and running in both Jungle Book & Sword in the Stone.

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Some other ones:

After the "Everybody Wants to be a Cat" number in the Aristocats, one of the cats snuggles in the same way as Figaro did in Pinocchio.

And look at the way Prince Phillip charges at Dragon Maleficent, then look at the way the Headless Horseman charges after Ichabod. It's the same animation.

Speaking of Ichabod and Mr. Toad. As seen on Youtube, the bit where Rat and Mole are trying to get the deed back from the weasels was recycled in the Jungle Book when Baloo and Bagheera are rescuing Mowgli from the apes.

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Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmOo_pYMG1U

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