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The Long Goodbye to the Third Man


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I've always admired this film for upending the morals of the book and somehow getting closer to the point that Chandler was making by doing so. The most striking decision was at the end - Marlowe kills Terry whereas in the book he shrugs and just tells him to leave. That would be too subtle and mellow, whereas there's a shocking quality to Marlowe's righteous anger in the film, after all the *beep* he takes for this character, he laughs at him for being a schmuck! It's a brilliant and unexpected moment that makes perfect sense.

There's one other point that has always struck me, and that is the similarity to another classic noir film, the Third Man. There are a number of discreet references to this film in Long Goodbye, not least the final shot, which replaces the emptiness felt by Harry Lime's friend after his death, with a sort of joyful relief felt by Marlowe, who starts to dance up the street while playing a mouth organ. It is ultimately a film about friendship, and how Marlowe is loyal to an ideal of friendship even after his friend has proved unworthy of his loyalty. Exactly the same message as The Third Man, where Holly Martens learns that his friend was an evil character, and has to choose between betraying him or walking away.

What I think makes this film so memorable and worth re-watching is that it is made with such an airy floating almost jokey style, and yet is about very dark and disturbing ideas. The best illustration of that is the opening scene where Marlowe's cat deserts him because he tried to fool him over the brand of cat food. The cat is the only character in the film with higher standards of behavious than Marlowe.

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I watched TLG (for the Nth time) Friday and was struck by the Third Man reference at the end as well, so I watched TTM (for the Nth time :) last night... The long tree-lined avenue and the jeep at the end must have been deliberate echoes by Altman. Marlowe's little jig is charming.

And what music... all the different variations on the theme, even during the Mexican funeral procession.

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Absolutley right. I came on the board to see if anyone else noticed that or not. It's just like a mirror image of Third Man ending... woman and man switch places etc..

And of course Marlowe and Terry's relationship as friends.

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spoilers? -.-

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While I appreciate the discussion of the finer points of this excellent movie this is just a reminder that one should highlight the fact that there are spoilers in a thread. I foolishly decided to have a quick look at this discussion before watching The Long Goodbye (The Mention of The Third Man grabbed my attention) and the ending was revealed to me almost immediately ('Marlowe kills terry' - it stuck in my head right through the movie). Sure, it was my own fault that I went to the boards before watching the movie but I wouldn't have opened the thread had there been a spoiler alert in the subject line.... I realise that this comment is far too little too late as the post in question is over a year old but I just had to express my dissappointment and maybe prevent this happening to someone else.

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Ja that's unfortunate when that happens. I rarely go on message boards for films just incase the end is revealed to me.

The Third Man links are good, the ending especially, but also things like Marlowe thinking his friend is dead but then finding out he isn't. Of course they are very different films but do have some striking similarities.

Oh, why do I have to be Mr. Pink?

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Thats unfortunate.....but did you enjoy the movie? Do you agree its a classic?

Along these mean streets walks a man who is not mean himself - neither tarnished, nor afraid...

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Um... aren't "spoilers" inherent to any discussion about a film?

You should probably watch the film before reading any discussion/question threads.

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Faraaj, yeah, it's a classic alright, bought the dvd last week. really love this movie. Zando, I suppose you're right, I haven't made the same mistake since. As I said in my previous post, I do realise that it was my own fault but thanks for your contribution. I was just intrigued by the mention of the Third Man in the title and my curiosity got the better of me. Anyway, it didn't detract hugely from my enjoyment of the film, the ending is great but it's the overall tone of the film that I got the most from.

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That's just what I was thinking!

It'd be kind of hard to compare and contrast two different films without mentioning anything about the films, wouldn't it? ;)










-------------------------------------No *beep* *beep* lady, do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza??

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