In Judas' Death does Judas


go mad before he kills himself? I mean after he does the reprise of I Don't Know How To Love Him when he ist singing I've been used etc? I don't know if it's the way it's written but I always get the impression in every performance of this that I see that Judas is gradually in the show (especially in act 2) is losing his grip on his sanity partially out of guilt and the conflict and paranoia etc, it feels like his decision to hang himself/shoot himself depending on which version you watch, is like the culmination of a rapid mental breakdown? What do you guys think?

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Yeah, I think that makes sense. He does seem like he's going mad/losing it. I've always kind of thought that, too. I think Judas' Death is one of the most difficult, draining sequences to get through. It's incredibly intense, and hearing these anguished, strangled cries of "you have murdered me!" in between the choral track is haunting. Am the only one who stops and thinks about how powerful that statement is: "You have murdered me."?


In the film version, Carl Anderson has a real dark intensity. To me, there's something almost frightening about 'Heaven on their Minds' the first time he sings/screams "Jesus!" Of course, that's also good music/lyric composition for you.



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it's only madness if god doesn't exist. Otherwise, i just see him feeling equally used and betrayed, angry that he was made a pawn in the lord's little game without understanding the rules. Was it his destiny to do this? Was he tempted by self-interest? Was this all a farce?

He felt he had been made to betray Jesus and because of that, his self-torture was justified.

Of course, if there is no god, then Judas was just a civic-minded nutjob.



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I think what the OP and I are seeing is a nervous breakdown of sorts, resulting from his situation whether or not the hand of God was involved. And Judas does seem to believe that God or fate set him up to do this. In other words, the whole thing seems to make him lose his grip as the story progresses. But, of course, most people who commit suicide are probably losing their grip in some capacity or other. I should also concede that a nervous breakdown is different from "madness". Nonetheless, it seems like he is being driven over the edge by the fact that he is trapped in the situation that, as you point, God is quite possibly involved in.




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Well, it's obvious (in the film, at least) Judas believes he was manipulated and used to further God's agenda. His anger, his resentment, his guilt and regret... yeah, I would consider the gamut of emotions to be considered a nervous breakdown.
And for him to consider that he would be "damned for all time", what the hell difference would it make for him to kill himself at that point? He was in hell already. Damned as Lucifer was damned.



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I would agree with your assumption. He realized he's been a traitor and is angry that he was convinced it was the right thing. It's the power of Carl's acting that made the world fall in love with him as a result. As with Jesus, he was shown to be human and flawed.

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He couldn't stand the extreme pain of his guilt anymore. So he put an end to his pain.






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