Is it just me...


or does anyone else find this feature overrated? The soundtrack is dynamite but technical merits and the plot don't fall that much behind from the 70's explotation flicks.

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Give it a break. It was made in a third-world country, after all. It's not supposed to be the second coming of "The Maltese Falcon", but it's an incredible slice-of-life from early-70s Jamaica. If you try to compare it to the best high-budget American films from the same period, of course it's going to come up short.

Just cut them up like regular chickens.

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Agreed, while the film itself is just decent enough to string itself along, it's absolutely fascinating as a time capsule of Jamaica from the 70's. Reminds me a bit of Black Orpheus in that way (in that case Brazil in the 50's). Also, the footage of the various live recording performances (Cliff, The Maytals) is pure gold.

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I agree, it's a pretty amazing document, and as a vehicle that launched reggae to the world, time and the short attention spans of today's audiences cannot diminish its importance.

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It's an interesting document of Jamaican life in the 70s but if I'm honest the only thing I really enjoyed about it was the amazing soundtrack. And I wouldn't consider myself to have a short attention span.

Just because it was an important film does not necessarily make it a good one.

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sh-t movie, gold soundtrack.

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The Maltese Falcon was the second coming of the Maltese Falcon.

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I agree, it is overrated, so much I was compelled to review it, which I never do. I had to force myself to keep watching at points. I gave it a 4/10. And it's nowhere as good as some blaxploitation flicks like Superfly, Shaft or even Black Caesar.

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I can see where some would try compare it to other blaxploitation flicks of the era but the film's more in line with "Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song."

It's still a landmark film in Jamaican Cinema, despite the pacing of the story.

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"The Harder They Come" is not a blaxploitation film. That genre is about a section of Black AMERICAN life during the 70's and has nothing to do with Jamaica or the west indies. It's something different altogether. The Harder TheY Come had true caribbean flavor and was a snap shot into life in 1970's Jamiaca. It was a pioneering film in the caribbean and has nothing to do with blaxploitation movies which basically consisted of guns, pimps and chasing women. "The Harder They Come" is something different altogether. I happen to really enjoy this film though. I'm not Jamaican, but I know a lot of Jamaicans and my family is West Indian so I know the culture really well and it's really interesting to see what life was like back then in Jamaica and just the caribbean in general.

I love The Harder They Come. Ivan was what they call a real "bad john". I thought it was enteraining all the way especially the shoot out at the end. Ivan started off as a good guy and then got corrupted, which was interesting to see how the character progressed. Also, yes of course the soundtrack is wonderful.








"And when the groove is dead and gone, love survives, so we can rock forever" RIP MJ

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Unless one has actual knowledge and personal experience of the day to day life in places like Jamaica, I can see where this film would be a bit over the head of people like the OP who view it from what I'd call a "Hollywood" perspective.

It's a work of art, that moves the soul, despite it's flaws. If it were anything else, would we still be discussing it here decades later?

As to the subject of this thread...unfortunately no, it's not just you.

"if it was any good they'd have made an American version by now." Hank Hill

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Agreed wholeheartedly.

Any reviewer who reviews this in the context of American Blacksploitation cinema -- just because it has black people and crime themes in it -- has not done their research and CANNOT be relied upon for an informed review. It's really that simple. Sadly, this is a problem with probably 70% of the amateur/user film criticism on the internet today. It's written by people either too young or too inexperienced with ALL cinema to properly contextualize each film they review, so instead they latch on to surface similarities to (largely American) genre films they're familiar with, rather than researching the history that would make give their reviews some resonance.

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At the time of its release, this movie was a complete revelation in that it was almost a documentary.

Nobody in the US had heard reggae, nobody had seen dreadlocks. Bob Marley was becoming known because Eric Clapton, junkie British guitarist, covered the song in his whining drone [awful]. When people heard the original version and Marley's other songs, everybody wanted to know, "Who is this guy, and where does he come from?"

This movie blew the roof off of the incredible music scene that was being born in Kingston town.

Most imdb posters are far too young to understand the impact this movie made on American popular culture.

It was made on zero budget in one of the poorest countries in the world. Of course, it's not a seamless, sleek studio production with perfect lighting and glamorous dolly shots. It's amazing it even got done. It's one of the most important movies ever made.

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Yes, it is just you. This incredible film is exactly as it should be: rough, raw, and in your face.

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Seriously?

People are calling this exploitation / blaxploitation?
People are comparing this to Shaft or Superfly?

Blaxploitation was a version of Exploitation cinema, and like most exploitation cinema, invented by white people. Basicly it comes down to this: exploitation cinema 'exploits' every cheesy film aspect it can find: guns, crime, cars, women, zombies, or whatever, and crams as much as possible of it in one film for pure entertainment value. At one point people thought "Hey, what about if we make these kinda films with black people? We'll have a whole new subgenre, and cater to a whole new target audience." That's basicly the story of blaxploitation films.
Don't get me wrong; there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion; it became pretty popular (not in the last place amongst white people by the way). I enjoy that genre like I enjoy all other exploitation films.

But if you want to compare The Harder They Come to anything, Scarface (either the 1932 or the 1983 version) would be more applicable in my opinion.
THTC is a crime story based on a real life person, and it touches real world problems like drug trade, poverty, police corruption, that were present then (and probably still) in Jamaica. Although the film features violence and drugs, there's not nearly as much of it and it's not nearly as cheesy or over the top as it would be if THTC would be an exploitation flick. Frankly, the only similarity with blaxploitation is that the cast is all black people. :S

As a film, it may not be Oscar material, but so many films aren't, and as someone mentioned earlier it was made in what was then a third wirld country, not exactly famous for it's film industry. Personally, I think it's a good film, and I think the average 7.0 it has on IMDb is deserved. I think the pacing is just fine, although like all older films, it's a little slower than films nowadays but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Someone wrote they had to push themselves to keep watching... seriously I don't know how that happened and I wonder if it's fair to blame that on the film. If the film was that bad, it wouldn't still be watched 40 years later and have a 7 on IMDb.

I also saw someone write "if it was any good they would have made a Hollywood version of it". Well, Scarface comes to mind, although technically that was a remake of the 1932 one. ;) But THTC is important on a much bigger level; this may be one of the first films where black people were portrayed as complex characters. And that for a film from an 'outside' (non-Hollywood) source.

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No.

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