Bruce Lee directed this


Sure, Robert Clouse is the credited director. But there's no way that the same person who directed this also directed Gymkata. His very next film, Black Belt Jones, looks amateurish by comparison. None of Clouse's films are as well shot or edited as this one. Either Clouse somehow lost his touch immediately after this film or Bruce Lee used his considerable talent and force of will to steer this project.

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You're using the term "not bad" a lot. Enter the Dragon is great. Are you honestly saying that you don't see a difference in craft between Enter the Dragon and rest of Clouse's films? Even in the cinematography, design, or editing? Something made that happen and looking at Clouse's other films, my only guess is Bruce Lee had something to do with that. By the way, Gymkata is "not bad" too.

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Robert Clouse was indeed the film's director, however Bruce Lee choreographed all the fight sequences and even wrote some dialogue scenes. (His chat with the monk and his impromptu lesson with his student)

Having said that, Clouse's direction did hamper the fight sequences a bit by filming Bruce Lee much to tight (close ups). Its kinda like filming the greatest Riverdancer from the waist up. Clouse needed to pan out more to capture Bruce Lee in his full glory. Still amazing though.

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And its solely Bruce Lee's presence that makes this film the influential classic it is...not Robert Clouse.

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That's what I thought. Clouse just basically pointed and shot. Lee made it great.

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You got it. Exactly.

Cheers.

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On the flip side, Bruce Lee did direct Way of the Dragon (aka Return of the Dragon) and was in the middle of directing Game of Death before he signed on for Enter.

I believe he would've went on to direct many great action films as well as star.

I read in an old issue of 'Inside Kung Fu' magazine that George Lucas, when writing the Star Wars films, envisioned Bruce Lee as the leader/head of the jedi warriors. If Bruce survived, that would've been f^cking awesome!! Who better to play the supreme Jedi master? Lol!!

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That would have been the bomb. Though knowing GL, he would introduce Lee's awesome character, then have him unceremoneously killed off immediately.

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Lol...you're probably right. Damn that George Lucas. Lol

On the flip side, I'm sure Bruce would've been happy to have his character killed, just so long as he was given an honorable death...not unlike the end of Fist of Fury...minus the guns. Lol

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And its solely Bruce Lee's presence that makes this film the influential classic it is...not Robert Clouse.
Yes there was no Lee in his other films (am including GOD here).

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Jim Kelly, John Saxon and Shih Kien gave a huge assist to Bruce Lee, there no denying that.......

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In terms of ETD achieving some sort of classic status, I think that's debatable.

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No more debatable than Bruce Lee being the sole reason the movie is iconic.

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That's your view and your entitled to it.

I might suggest that if you'd like to research further, you'll quickly ascertain that any deeming of ETD as being worthy of "classic" status, rests almost entirely on the strength of Lee's charismatic presence and not Clouse's great direction, or the thespian talents or otherwise of Jim Kelly, John Saxon etc.

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You can suggest that all you want, and I can suggest that Jim Kelly, John Saxon etc. were just as important, so what.

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There are none so blind as those that will not see.

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Or those that need glasses, like you.

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Absolutely, and those supporting characters are what makes the difference between a GOOD film and a GREAT film. Which is all I said.

I don't see how anyone can claim that Jim Kelly's Williams' could have turned out better with Rockne Tarkington!

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Bill Smith is too big and way too muscular to play a good guy, his has huge guns. Same with Rockne, not withstanding Danger Island!

I think having a toned, leaned out and ripped to the bone Jim Kelly, with his own style of swag, nailed Williams, and I think Saxon's martial arts skills were probably the best in Hollywood for that time period, even though Bill Smith was also highly trained in the arts.

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THE AMSTERDAM KILL, one of the best action films of the '70s


According to whom?

Cannon Films slashed his budget and shooting schedule in half during production


Yeah, I'm sure Deadly Eyes and China O'Brien would have been better if only the budget had been bigger. And that doesn't excuse the rest of Clouse's 80s and 90s films. But it is possible to make a good film on a low budget as Lee's earlier films prove.

Leave Clouse alone.


He's dead so that's not a problem.

He did some fine work and was largely - if not nearly entirely - responsible for the brilliance of ENTER THE DRAGON.


Some fine work, yes. But as I mentioned earlier, the technical skill present in this film and his following films is vastly different. As much as I like some of his later films, it's hard to believe that they were directed by the same person.

Now screw off.


Your parents let you watch this movie?

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I am sorry but I disagree completely.
Like many other masterpieces in cinema history the merits for ETD being the iconic film that it is are far more and far beyond to just Bruce Lee.
Personally I am a huge fan not just of Enter the dragon but also of Robert Clouse and I know how much Clouse brought into the picture (no disrespect for the great Bruce Lee who was equally important).
Those who claim ETD was a great film only because of Bruce Lee don't know much about cinema and the art of film-making.
It is true indeed that Bruce Lee played a very important and pivotal role (both on the screen and behind) in ETD, but is also true that only a grand and visual director of the calibre of Robert Clouse (who amazingly to many people he was completely deaf) could bring an Hong Kong film to a very different level, where no other previous martial-arts movies had gone before.
In fact Bruce Lee previous films were nowhere near the greatness of Enter the dragon and there were many reasons for it, first and foremost the flatness of some of the directors who were unable to give to the pictures a real sense of visual and the very low budget surely didn't help either.
For his new project Bruce Lee wanted an Hollywood american director completely different from all other directors he had worked with in the past (this can be confirmed by many witnesses who were involved in Enter the dragon as well as Bruce Lee's family and friends who claimed this in many interviews).
Lee choosing Clouse wasn't a casual thing.
In fact Lee was particularly impressed by an action picture made a couple of years earlier called DARKER THAN AMBER.
The director of that film?
Robert Clouse.
Darker than amber was a 1970 movie starring Hollywood stars Rod Taylor, Suzy Kendall and William Smith and based on a novel of John D. MacDonald.
It was a film that contained incredible fight scenes and fast pace action.
In fact the movie was highly attacked by the critics for its brutal violence but praised by the public for its originality.
Smith himself (who continued to work for Clouse in other films and later became famous for many other works such as Conan the barbarian) admitted in an interview that the fight sequences in Darker than amber looked so realistic primarily because of the ability of the director behind the hand-camera.
This was precisely the reason why Bruce Lee wanted Robert Clouse as director and nobody else (see also interview with Raymond Chow,John Saxon and other producers of Enter the dragon).
In ETD there are so many things that have Clouse's signature, particularly the visuals and the rhythm of the story.
For example the mirror scene where Lee and Han have the final duel was all Clouse's idea.
He wanted to use more than 8.000 mirrors in one room to re-create a psychedelic atmosphere, still he was able to do this without reflecting the image of himself or the cameras (back in the early 70's there wasn't the technology we have today, therefore this was an extremely difficult thing to do) and the result in fact was phenomenal, to say the least.
Another element was Lee's character and the way Clouse wanted him to be.
Clouse didn't want Lee's character to be just a Chinese man but more of a man of the world and in fact the difference between his character in ETD and his other movies is huge.
Also the beautiful camera shots we see throughout the entire movie was all Clouse.
In fact the only person who spoke terribly about Clouse was Bob Wall (who actually made up so many stories over the years about Clouse deliberately just to attack him), all of those stories about the director being an hack turned out to be completely false.
Clouse in fact discussed scene by scene with Bruce Lee and together with the producers managed to take the picture way beyond the limited resources.
Every single fighting techniques in ETD were carefully choreographed by Robert Clouse himself with Bruce Lee (see documentary:The life of Bruce Lee martial arts master).
On the contrary Bob Wall should be grateful to Robert Clouse for the rest of his life for making him famous and for having worked for him on other movies.
Robert Clouse was an amazing director and delivered one of the most iconic movies ever in history.
He also brought to stardom some of the greatest martial artists in Hollywood
(such as Jim Kelly, Jackie Chan, Bolo Yeung, Richard Norton and Cynthia Rothrock).
All the rest is irrelevant.
It is true that after Enter the dragon Clouse wasn't able to reach the same level of greatness and glory again (this happens to many other great directors in Hollywood), however he kept on working continuously throughout his long career and yet managed to make some other very good movies (some of them became cult films).
It is not a coincidence that Clouse became over the years Golden Harvest's regular man.
Throughout the years I managed to collect almost all of his movies on DVD (some of them are extremely rare to find but after researches I finally managed to buy them).
To those who might be interested in getting to know more about Clouse and his works I can only mention those titles post ETD that many fans consider to be good (and that over the years developed a cult following).

These are:

- DARKER THAN AMBER (1970) (this was Clouse directorial debut in feature films)
as above mentioned (starring Rod Taylor, Suzy Kendall and William Smith)
- BLACK BELT JONES (1974) starring Jim Jelly and Gloria Hendry
a funky and interesting mixture of martial arts and blaxploitation with great action
- GOLDEN NEEDLES (1974) starring Joe Don Baker, Jim Kelly
an original mixture of thriller, martial arts and action
- THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR (1975) starring Yul Brynner and Max von Sydow
a very well made low budget post apocalyptic movie with unusual settings
- THE AMSTERDAM KILL (1977) starring Robert Mitchum and Leslie Nielsen
(when he was still a good and solid serious actor)
a great gem from Golden Harvest and an intriguing Hong-Kong style espionage plot
- THE PACK (1977) starring (again) Joe Don Baker
a good animal-horror movie, a very common genre in those days
- GAME OF DEATH (1978)
Despite this film is open to many debates,
it is still considered by many as the best of bruceploitation spin-off movies.
Yet, on a technical level is very well made (especially considering its time)
- BATTLE CREEK BRAWL (1980) starring Jackie Chan
despite what some critics say this film is fun to watch. Great fight scenes.
A true Golden Harvest old gem
- FORCE: FIVE (1981) starring Joe Lewis, Richard Norton
a cool low budget early 80's martial arts film with great fighters and good plot
- DEADLY EYES (1982) starring Sam Groom, Sara Botsford
Clouse second and last journey into the animal-horror genre. Very effective
- CHINA O'BRIEN and CHINA O'BRIEN 2 (1990) starring Cynthia Rothrock and Richard Norton
perhaps not the best Robert Clouse works but still good fun to watch

Ultimately not many people know this but Robert Clouse had 2 OSCAR NOMINATIONS, a GOLDEN GLOBE nomination and other awards as best director early in his career for two short films he made in the early sixties THE CADILLAC (1962) and THE LEGEND OF JIMMY BLUE EYES (1964).
He wrote a film in 1972 directed by Steven Spielberg called SOMETHING EVIL and worked also as director for popular american TV series such as IRONSIDE and the 80's martial arts classic THE MASTER.

Robert Clouse will always be remembered as the guy who brought Hong Kong to Hollywood,
the guy who gave us the greatest martial arts film ever made (Enter the dragon) and the director who brought martial arts-action movies to a different level.

R.I.P. director !!

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Where to begin.....
What a load of tosh!

It wasnt me, it was the other three. Hang them!

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for you....only for you.
I have no other comment since I don't discuss with superficial people who talk without saying anything.

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Excellent

It wasnt me, it was the other three. Hang them!

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Without Bruce Lee, Enter the Dragon would have been about as memorable and relevant as something like Shatter. With Lee, it not only became his breakout film, but found layer-upon-layer of subtext, creativity and dynamism from Lee, whose fingerprints are all over this film.

NOW TARZAN MAKE WAR!

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Without Lee.....how very true.

It wasnt me, it was the other three. Hang them!

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Wrong. Enter the dragon is a great film for a number of reasons, but the main one is the collaboration of director Robert Clouse with Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee wanted Clouse for a specific reason and he put tremendous pressure to have him as director of the film. In fact the direction of the other films Lee did was so poor that it affected the quality of his movies. Enter the dragon had the quality of a grand visual Hollywood director mixed with the energy and charisma of Bruce Lee.
The camera shots we see in Enter the dragon and some of the scenes like the mirror one are expression of true geniality....and it was Clouse's all the way.

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Do you think Clouse saw The Lady from Shanghai? I certainly do.

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Robert Clouse directed the greatest martial arts film ever made and many others. PERIOD! Accept it and get along with it.

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Here's a link to see where producers and other personalities involved in Enter the dragon talk a lot about the making of the film.
They also talk about the enormous contribution that "Bob" (Robert Clouse) brought to the picture....not less than Bruce Lee's.
Enjoy !

(go to google and search for
Enter the Dragon Filmmakers Reflect on Bruce Lee’s Most Famous Role)

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Many people are very wrong on this, Bruce Lee wasn't the main reason that made the film. Sure, he was the STAR of the film and he PERSONALLY chose Clouse to call the shots as the director. Like Cmeloni673 said, Clouse was part of reason why Enter the Dragon was visually striking knowing the fact that he was deaf. I am an upcoming deaf filmmaker and it comes no surprise to me that deaf directors have limited access to film because there isn't any out there today but here's the thing, a deaf person is known to be very visual because he/she can see things in pictures and opposed by using sign language. In fact, many directors (non-deaf directors) tend to use static shots and not making it visually striking compared to those who uses camera movements well comparing to how Scorsese, Tarantino, De Palma, Hitchcock, Welles, Kubrick and Clouse included and some others use (Jack Bender is my favorite of all because of his flawless pacing in his directed episodes of Lost and I am keening to combine the works of Robert Clouse and Jack Bender to do my film.)

Clouse made his first short when he was 34 and I made my first short when I was 27. I'm in my thirties now. Clouse didn't make his first feature until he was 42 and I certainly will make a feature at an earlier age before Clouse did.

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I paste here below an interesting article I recently found on internet about the sadly gone Robert Clouse.

"The premier American auteur of kung-fu and martial arts movies, Robert Clouse is primarily remembered today for his two collaborations with Asian superstar Bruce Lee: both of which helped seal Lee’s legacy after his tragic death. Clouse also worked with action stars including Joe Don Baker, Jackie Chan, and even Yul Brynner: though most of his post-Lee movies were attempts to cash in on past glories and the director’s style, including lots of sudden zooms and slow motion, seems hopelessly dated today.
Still, many of Clouse’s action/adventures had an enormous influence on the genre’s progression over the past few decades.
Born almost completely deaf, he would have his assistants describe whether dialogue was spoken well or not, Clouse had a strong visual sense which helped him find recognition as a still photographer in the early 1960s. He directed a series of short projects which earned him a couple of Oscar nominations and a Golden Globe, before establishing his high octane style with Dreams Of Glass (1970). His follow up, Darker Than Amber, was a fast paced and exciting piece of escapism which helped establish Clouse’s reputation as a filmmaker: though it was the legendary Enter The Dragon (1973), made after the director had spent a few years on undistinguished TV programs, that stands as his crowning accomplishment. The first and last American vehicle for martial arts star Bruce Lee, who died before the film was released to monumental success, its nominal plot had the karate master entering a tournament to stop a ruthless drug smuggling ring.Following the actor’s death, Clouse would spent the remainder of his career attempting to follow up his initial blockbuster: he cast Lee’s African American co-star Jim Kelly as Black Belt Jones (1974), a black martial artist who similarly tries to stop a ruthless gang of thugs. That cult sensation temporarily made Kelly into a star, with exciting action sequences to balance out Clouse’s now-dated camera tricks and use of slow motion, though both Jim and Bob Clouse would have worked together once again in Golden Needles: another thriller about karate and heroin dealers.

His cache as a kung fu master starting to wane, Clouse would have more success with straightforward action movies like The Ultimate Warrior (1975): in which Brynner was cast as a futuristic vigilante who tracks those who killed members of his family. Cheesy at times to be sure, but Yul was as intense as ever and the story would have a surprising influence over subsequent, superior action movies from George Miller. The Pack (1977) was your typical story about a group of mad dogs that escape from a laboratory, with environmental themes thrown in with the usual thrills, while The Amsterdam Kill was an interesting late vehicle for the Golden Age superstar Robert Mitchum. Desperate for another hit, Clouse next pulled together footage of Lee from before the actor’s death to complete his long anticipated project, Game of Death (1978). The story, about a martial artist/movie star who fakes his own death to take on some bad guys, contained enough wishful thinking to make the patch job a success among fans of the legend: though the use of stand-ins and Clouse’s already-dated (but yet efficient) zooming make it an inferior final bow.
After The London Connection (1979), the director worked with Jackie Chan: who had acted as an extra in his previous success Enter the dragon and was now considered the clown prince of chop socky flicks. Their collaboration, The Big Brawl (1980), has often been considered one of Chan’s best American movies: combining the director’s fast paced style with Jackie’s tongue in cheek variation on martial arts. It’s success would keep Clouse working for the next decade, when he would continue to crank out popular B-movies.
Puctures like Force Five (1981) and Deadly Eyes (1982) offer good entertainment.
Gymkata (1985) was an interesting diversion. Perhaps the only movie ever made that attempts to combine martial arts with gymnastics, the film wasn’t exactly a success but has maintained a steady cult following over the years and indicated that Clouse was still an idiosyncratic talent.
His last commercial success of note was China O’Brien (1990), which starred Cynthia Rothrock as an LA cop who goes after a gang of bad guys. The director’s first movie to feature a female kung-fu master, it gained a reputation thanks to Rothrock’s karate skills and sexy physique: the success of Clouse’s movie was substantial enough that he subsequently made a sequel, China O’Brien Two (1991).
The director’s last movie was Ironheart (1992), a martial arts direct-to-video starring Bolo Yeung. After that Clouse retired from direction.
He died of kidney failure in 1997 and has never really received the recognition he deserves as a superior director of escapist entertainment.
The films of Robert Clouse have certainly dated, but his influence is still apparent in modern action movies and video games and many of his inventive films maintain fervent cult followings".

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