tarantino thievery
quentin obviously a fan as he half-inched the blowtorch and pliers line
shareyeah, QT only steals from the best. Unless it's "Jackie Brown," and then he should have stolen a lot more. lol
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Hmmm, I'm not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure Tarantino didn't take that from Charlie Varrick. Using a blowtorch and some pliers on a guy is just another brutal torture, and it's refered to in a lot of movies. Even if Tarantino learned about the method from this film, you couldn't call it stealing.
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oh come on, tarantino stole that line of dialogue word for word, or very nearly.
tarantino is a known plagiarist.
quentin tarantino: 'i steal from every movie ever made'
I think you're missing the point. Part of the fun of watchin Tarantino movies is figuring out where some of the lines came from. I believe it's more in respect to great films than plagirism.
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Making a parody movie requires straight quotes. P.F or Kill Bills (or any Tarantino films) aren't parody films even though they have a little touch of black comedy. But Tarantino always makes it clear to the audience that he makes homages to movies that he loves. So I guess it makes it okey.
But sometimes it annoys me that Tarantino is not even trying to be original...
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Edit: Oh, this was for Nine18Pictures.
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QT is a pure 100% movie lover, who gets to make movies that lovers wanna see. He steals tons and tons of stuff, but ADMITS it! How people of my age/generation (23-ish) would go out and see films from the era of CV if it wasn't for QT?
QT is a movie buff/nerd (whatever u wanna call it, who cares, I'll wear that badge with *beep* pride!) and he gets to do what we would all love to, the lucky bastard!
Wrathfulmaze was right, people hate him through jealousy. He has re-invented movie making and reinspired a generation bought up on soul-less & corporate MTV *beep* into a world of classic and forgotten cinema.
BTW - Do you think that Don Siegel/Walter Matthau/John Reese/Joe Don Baker would care if he lifted that line or not? I think they would be more intrested in the fact people who would have never seen this film, might actually go out and see it, and love it.
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Right on the mark Tokyofist.
For whatever reason, some folks just don't get QT. It's their loss, I feel sorry for them. If one happens to dislike his films due to the violence or language, that's different, I can understand that. Dissing him for his frequent use of homage or saying he isn't original is just plain ignorant.
First of all, QT's movies are 100% original in the sense of style, his movies do not feel or play like anyone else's. He has his own style.
Second, QT weaves his homage so seemlessly into his story line that it can be hard to spot. As someone else has already said, it's fun trying to keep up with him.
Third, I'm nearly 50, seen CV 10 or 12 times, seen PF 10 or 12 times, never caught the homage under discussion till I read this thread. THANKS!! I can hear the line in my head now and it makes it twice as good.
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funny how when tarantino pays tribute to obscure movies that he loves, it's thievery, but when so many other directors rip off tarantino with style and script and plot, it's just 'genre'...
and when the coen brothers, and the hughes brothers, and other directors from Lucas to Speilberg, from Coppola to everyone's favorite Tim Burton, when these guys pay TRIBUTE to obscure movies JUST LIKE TARANTINO DOES, no one says a word, it's only Tarantino that gets trouble for it...
too funny!
TOO TOO funny!
To me, it's refreshing that QT takes a line (this pliers-blowtorch line really was a word-for-word "lift" not just an allusion, nod or homage) from such an incredibly great movie as Charley Varrick.
I have a lot of reasons to love this movie. Why did everyone else dislike it? It seems to have fizzled out in popularity compared to other Siegel movies like "Dirty Harry". Are people just stupid?
A screenplay that I recently sold had two pages in it tthat I lifted word for word from the film "Usual Suspects" - it was my tribute to that film. Ironically, it was those two pages that caught the readers eye (or ear) and based on his recation he recommended the script to his boss who in turn bought it!
Awesome!
Brett
Maybe Marcellus Wallace was a fan of Charley Varrick and found the perfect opportunity to use that line.
shareThere's a Joe Don Baker scene in "The Outfit" that is an homage to the opening diner scene of the original version of "The Killers" with a closing line that is almost word for word. I think a lot of filmmakers do it to honor previous films/filmmakers they admire. Supposedly, Clint Eastwood's "Pale Rider" is a (pale) re-make of "Shane," which coincidentally, has two of its actors in "The Outfit," one in the diner scene referenced above.
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