Film Culture of the 70s


This film offers an interesting look into the "film culture" of the early 70s. In the film, Woody's character, Allan Felix, writes about film, presumably for a film journal. He is first seen in a revival theatre watching CASABLANCA, one of the classic Bogart pictures that was a staple of such theatres at the time. The very title of this film itself, and the whole idea of relating it to Bogart and CASABLANCA, suggests how familiar audiences were with these things at the time.

I would be interested in reading Woody Allen's thoughts on film, as he seems to have very good appreciation for the truly great films. One of the most fascinating film articles I have read is his interview while watching "Shane", and his comments on that film.

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Interesting thought. There was a big revival of interest in old films during the late 1960s and early 1970. Bogart, the Marx Bros., W.C. Fields and others were rediscovered, as well as many of the great directors. This can be seen in the emergence of a whole generation of filmmakers -- Scorsese, Bogdanovich, Coppola, etc., who were raised on old movies, thanks largely to them being reran on television. Film studies became a growing college field and critics like Ebert and Kael became household names.


Ironically, with the growth of cable and video, the reverence directed at old classic film has diminished. I think they are so readily available that we simply take them for granted any more. You really had to go out of your way to see old movies at that time. You either had to hope they would play in revivial houses or be shown by film societies, or if you had to stay up and catch them on the late, late show. A new movie might take years before it ever appeared on television and the network premiere of a movie could be a major cultural event. And if you came across a film that you had never seen or maybe never even heard of, it could be special, because you didn't know when or if you'd ever get a chance to see it again. As such, you'd sit and absorb the movie. Now, movies are so readily available that seeing one isn't that big of a deal. Don't catch it at the theatre -- wait for the DVD or cable. A movie that might have only been shown twice a year on the a local station's late show, now might be show 20 or 30 times a week on cable channel. Plus, you can own a movie for less than it costs to see it on the big screen. It's like too much of a good thing, it loses its thrill value. Plus, we are so saturated with media 200 channels, video games, iPods, etc., that movies get lost in the mix.

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I agree with majikstl! I first saw PIAS on the big screen; it was about 17 years before I saw it again on cable. I didn't enjoy it as much the second time around but it brought back a lot of memories! Our family has many DVD's and premium cable and we STILL complain that we have "nothing to watch." Some of the DVD's on our shelves haven't been opened. Growing up, we only had the 3 networks on TV and I saw many good movies on the late, late show! You are right, we had to sit and absorb the movie because who knew when we'd ever see it again?

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I agree with you with a few exceptions.
It is true that with cable, DVDs etc there is access to more old movies. However, there are some that are not shown. American Movie Classics, Turner Classics seem to have a rotation of about 10-15 films they show over and over.
You can rent many movies on DVD, but I don't think watching a movie on DVD is the seem as seeing it in a theater.

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I just watched Play It Again Sam at one of the few remaining revival cinemas in my city.

I attended a matinee and two things struck me:

1) The theatre I was in was very similiar to the one we find Woody inside at the beginning of the film. No stadium seating, no THX surround sound, low-back plush chairs sans cup-holds; the perfect venue for watching pre-Jurassic Park films (which, in my opinion marks the beginning of MTV-style cinemas).

2) Taking note of the audience in my theatre, 80% were single viewers with an equal mix of men and women. I had the feeling that many of us felt as if we were playing hooky.

I guess my point is that I agree with the notion that you have a much richer experience watching older films in a cinema rather than at home where you have the ability to pause the film, or watch a scratch-free print. Being at the theatre is the equivalent of listening to old vinyl 45s on a juke box at a seedy bar.

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majikstl wrote: "Interesting thought. There was a big revival of interest in old films during the late 1960s and early 1970. Bogart, the Marx Bros., W.C. Fields and others were rediscovered, as well as many of the great directors. This can be seen in the emergence of a whole generation of filmmakers -- Scorsese, Bogdanovich, Coppola, etc., who were raised on old movies, thanks largely to them being reran on television. Film studies became a growing college field and critics like Ebert and Kael became household names."

Ironically, the rise of the "film school" generation of directors drew attention away from the older films and the European filmmakers like Bergman and Fellni whose reputations remained very high throughout the 1960s. Directors like Bogdanovich, Scorsese and others borrowed heavily from older Hollywood films, and from the foreign films, and created much more accessible, easily digestible works which had short term box office benefits but, in the long term, drew attention away from those other films.

The rise of critics like Kael, Sarris, Simon, Macdonald and others was indeed another important hallmark of this period. Incidentally, while Ebert had been reviewing films since 1967, he really didn't become a major figure until the late 70s/early 80s, when he championed "entertainment" films like "Jaws" and "Star Wars" that Kael and company had little time for. That was the great, radical shift that marked the end of the "film culture" in the US.


majikstl wrote: "Ironically, with the growth of cable and video, the reverence directed at old classic film has diminished. I think they are so readily available that we simply take them for granted any more. You really had to go out of your way to see old movies at that time. You either had to hope they would play in revivial houses or be shown by film societies, or if you had to stay up and catch them on the late, late show. A new movie might take years before it ever appeared on television and the network premiere of a movie could be a major cultural event. And if you came across a film that you had never seen or maybe never even heard of, it could be special, because you didn't know when or if you'd ever get a chance to see it again. As such, you'd sit and absorb the movie. Now, movies are so readily available that seeing one isn't that big of a deal. Don't catch it at the theatre -- wait for the DVD or cable. A movie that might have only been shown twice a year on the a local station's late show, now might be show 20 or 30 times a week on cable channel. Plus, you can own a movie for less than it costs to see it on the big screen. It's like too much of a good thing, it loses its thrill value. Plus, we are so saturated with media 200 channels, video games, iPods, etc., that movies get lost in the mix."

I've said that if this film was made today, Woody's character would be a music aficionado. That seems to be where there is more serious study, although even music is getting increasingly buried in a kind of postmodern shuffle thanks to the iPod and mix CDs.

The depiction of the revival theatre in this film represents a lost tradition. Unfortunately, except for a few exceptions in the biggest cities, the revival theatre is pretty much dead. Even those that survive are forced to show increasingly banal, run-of-the-mill fare to appeal to wider audiences.

You're absolutely right that few audiences really sit and "absorb" the movie anymore. That's why they're all too frequently played as background noise rather than closely examined. It's also why good dialog, intricate characterizations, and attention to the quality of the filmmaking have all but disappeared.

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Most Woody Allen films are semi-autobiographic al so you can kind of get a feel of who he is. I know he loved Bergman and I believe he talks about film in a couple ofhis books. It's been a while since I read them so I can't say which ones. But I can say they were ALL enjoyable.


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Another interesting thing that dates this movie is the notion, common in many movies in the time before VCRs, that regularly screening films in your own home is a decadent, narcissistic thing to do.

It's intended to be a comment on Woody's character that he's nerdy enough to screen Casablanca enough to memorize it, just like Norma Desmond is a little odd watching her old films in Sunset Boulevard. Woody even owns his own 16mm projector - only the obscenely rich or hopelessly anti-social would do such a thing in 1972. One has to wonder where Woody would get his 16mm prints - you could rent them back then, but owning a print and its 4-5 reels in big round metal cans was a lot more complicated and expensive than checking out the new releases at the video store.

Times do change.



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not only classic hollywood films but there was this huge love of European films from the 60's which influenced American directors for the New Hollywood era.

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Great thread. When I was younger, I noticed that there were several film books dating from the early and mid-1970s, such as the Citadel series "Films of...", which gave a proper filmography of any given movie star from the Golden Age, as well as the emergence of interest in Film Noir, the rise of Bogart as a Counterculture hero, and film schools in California using the works of John Ford and Howard Hawks as study material. A fascinating time and one hard to imagine happening now, for the reasons already listed by other posters.

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I actually think, despite the fact that we have amazing HDTVs and BluRays and the ability to get really close to the theatrical experience in our own home, that the world might be slightly better if movies still only existed in theaters. I recently saw the re-release of "Titanic" and was still amazed at the awe and spectacle and epic nature of it, something that simply doesn't translate well to the home. What I wouldn't give for a nice revival theater that would play classic James Cameron or Brian De Palma or Woody Allen or David Lynch or Stanley Kubrick.....

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Watched PIAS again for the first time in maybe 10 years. I flipped when I saw Allen holding the "Bogart" book, because I had a copy of that and held onto it for years. When I first came to NYC in '85, the revival theaters were still going strong. I probably had 11-12 I could go to in Manhattan alone.
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