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Good on drama, not so good on crime


This is a good picture with good acting from Robert Redford especially, but as a crime picture, this really falls short on basic facts and reality.

First, did they cast this in a drunken stupor in five minutes at a Bar Mitzvah? Aside from Redford and the political client, every criminal in the movie is Jewish. That isn't even how it is in Israel. This isn't a gritty crime syndicate, it is a mensch convention. These are all really, really good actors, but this casting knocks the wind out of the character realism.

Second, the depiction of the "prison" is laughable. There is no role for a prison in this picture anyway, as no one goes to prison without a long court process, but this one isn't even barely a prison. In some scenes, it looks like a state hospital, in others like a commercial bakery or something like that. The locations information for this film says it was a local county jail, which I suppose it might have been, but prisons and county jails can't pass for each other, ever.

Breaking someone out of prison is something so nearly impossible that I am hard pressed to think of anyone who has succeeded at it in the USA (without a lovestruck correctional officer doing it for them, in 1989 a super rich drug kingpin tried to do it with a helicopter landing at a FL federal prison, both he and the pilot were seriously injured and imprisoned), but this doofy movie depicts it as something that can be done with $.99 wire cutters and a shirt! Then, more stupid than that, the convertible Mercedes getaway car is waiting to pick them up outside the secured perimeter, and trained marksmen with semi-automatic rifles tasked with securing that perimeter can't hit a parked car that is four feet outside the perimeter!

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What's the problem -- not enough diversity in an assembled gang of just four thieves? Since diplomat Dr. Amusa contacted a Jewish criminal (Kelp) about stealing the diamond in question, why would it be objectionable (or unrealistic) for Kelp to staff the heist with two Jewish associates and his Gentile, "mastermind" brother-in-law to plan the job?

In terms of realism, the original poster might as well have complained about the gang lifting the diamond's heavy glass enclosure with bare hands (which allowed better grip but left behind plenty of fingerprints). However, this picture is not a docudrama but a crime comedy -- and even as a teenager in 1972, I personally appreciated that THE HOT ROCK does not instruct viewers on how real-life criminals commit crimes and evade capture, or even identification.

To me, far too many modern movies and TV programs detail (and basically teach the public) far too much about criminal activity. HOT ROCK was the first time I remember seeing central thieves actually get away with their heist -- so there was immense novelty value in 1972. (Even in the earlier THE SPLIT, from another novel by Donald E. Westlake/"Richard Stark," most of the gang winds up dead.) I am not a criminal, and neither do I associate with any to my knowledge; therefore, the very UNrealism of HOT ROCK is a positive quality that lets me enjoy it guilt-free.

Most great films deserve a more appreciative audience than they get.

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Sorry to reply to such an old post, but I cannot agree with most of your post, if not the entirety. As per the poster below, it's a caper comedy, not a docu-drama.

The Hot Rock is an excellent picture.

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Couldn't agree more. Films used to be escapism, this is one of the best examples I know of that. Don't have to read anything into it, just enjoy the hijinks.

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