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'Go Ask Alice' Debunked at Snopes.com


Snopes debunked "Go Ask Alice" ages ago:

http://www.snopes.com/language/literary/askalice.asp

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Go Ask Alice was the product of Beatrice Sparks, an author who has come out with a number of "teens who saw their lives ruined by their bad choices" offerings, each one presented as a true story, often in the form of a diary of an anonymous teen

The precise authorship of Go Ask Alice is still a bit of a mystery. Beatrice Sparks is presented as its editor rather than its author, and one tantalizing mention in a 1998 New York Times book review indicates the book might have been the work of several people:

Linda Glovach, since exposed as one of the "preparers" — let's call them forgers — of Go Ask Alice, has just written Beauty Queen, about a girl who flees her alcoholic mother, becomes a stripper and dies of heroin addiction.

Our best guess is that a number of folks work at churning out these cautionary tales, which are then presented to an overly accepting public as real diaries of anonymous teens. Yet on the question of authorship, one thing is startlingly clear: whoever wrote the Go Ask Alice "diary" was not a 15-year-old girl.

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I read somewhere that one person identified the real "Alice", she was in a mental institution and the legend goes that half her diary got destroyed by her own hand and the rest was preserved in the premise before she killed herself. This Beatrice person then got ahold of some of the entries and completely made up her story from there.



Whether this is true or not, I dunno. But it sounds more interesting than the fictional book already.

Stuff like this reminds me of "Movie Poop Shoot.com" from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

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Does anyone know where I can buy the movie Go Ask Alice online?
If so please reply. Thank you!!!

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You can try eBay.

Stuff like this reminds me of "Movie Poop Shoot.com" from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

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The snopes website is all about finding out if something is true or not true. So I totally believe this is a made up story along the lines of "Drugs are bad. Mmmm-kay." How many vengeful stoners do you know are going to "spike" someone's drink because they think she is a squealer. Give me a frigging break. Stoners could care less that is why they are stoners! It's just a boogey man story to try to scare kids into not doing drugs. Let's look at some other Beatrice Sparks products (an author who has come out with a number of "teens who saw their lives ruined by their bad choices" offerings, each one presented as a true story, often in the form of a diary of an anonymous teen)

It Happened to Nancy (she's dying of AIDS)
Annie's Baby: The Diary of Anonymous, a Pregnant Teenager
Treacherous Love: The Diary of an Anonymous Teenager (teen girl is sexually taken advantage of by a teacher)
Jay's Journal (yet another diary, this one of a teen boy who turns to satan worship and drug use)
Almost Lost: The True Story of an Anonymous Teenager's Life on the Streets
Kim: Empty Inside: The Diary of an Anonymous Teenager (eating disorders)

Damn how lucky was she that she was able to unexpectedly find so many anonymous teens diaries! Who knew?

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In the school I went to as a kid, 1 boy's chocolate milk was "Spiked" for "fun", not vengence, but the result was that he ended up in a mental institution for the rest of his life. This happened in small town middle America.
Not exactly the same as Alice, but don't kid yourself that these things do not happen, they do.

Because they do, I think it's kind of irrelavant whether Beatrice "Made it up".
I think it would be much more accurate to say "She put the story into written form."
One can be fairly certain that somewhere in someone's real life, the story itself is close enough to be called "True".
As such, "Based on a true story" is an accurate discription.


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Sorry, but based on a true story is implying that it actually happened. In this case, it is not an actual diary and when it's being marketed as a true story, it's misleading and completely inaccurate. Beatrice Sparks has made a career on these supposed "true stories" and sadly, people continue to buy her books. Nobody's debating the fact that drug abuse exists, we're debating the factual merit of this book. It is relevent whether she made it up or not because she's marketing it as a true story, she's claiming that this person existed. She did the same thing with "Jay's Journal", except in this case, unlike "Go Ask Alice", his family members have stepped up to the plate and has stated that she made up a majority of that book. If she wants to write books about subjects that may prevent drug abuse and other teen related sunjects, that's great, but don't claim it's a true story when it's not. If you're looking for her books, you'll find them in the teen FICTION section. And as for the family of "Jay", here's the link to the article with his family. http://www.slweekly.com/editorial/2004/feat_2004-06-03.cfm

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I really believe you all are missing the point, here. As an English teacher and avid book reader who is trying to instill the love of reading within all my kids, this book is at least acurate in its portrayal of the dangers of drugs and their harm and depricative effects. Who cares if this book is actually written from the first-hand accounts of some random teenager? The point is that teenagers, still today in 2007, can and do identify and relate to the issues developed within the story. As long as kids can see the dangers, who cares who wrote or created the text? I just want to get kids to read. And, this is certainly something that gets their attention. The contemporary equivalent is "The Perks of Being a Wallflower," which my students absolutely love. Isn't this the point of literature...to get folks reading? Reading is absolutely proven to develop the mind and creativity. Heck, Shakespeare, if you believe in him, made up--to some degree--most of, or at least parts of, his works. Don't you believe that the themes and motifs he developed are still relevant today? Why are we so harsh with our contemporary adolescent novelists? And, if you're still upset because her books might be labeled or classified in the "non-fiction" section of your library, you might want to check where some other "non-fiction" books are located--"The Education of Little Tree," "A Million Little Pieces," oh, and watch out, "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings." I know I'll hear it on the last one, but Maya would have to have the world's best memory to recall all of that information. Seriously, if you want today's youth to pay attention to a story, then they really need to believe that it's real and could happen to them. I reiterate, a good book that delivers a good message. Cheers. And, I'm now done with my rant or rave or whatever it is I just did. Perhaps I'll copy and paste to the Amazon review message board.

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I think the intrigue is what interests readers and writers on the 'Go Ask Alice' subject. If 'Jay's Journal' was even slightly based on a real person then it is entirely possible that 'Alice' was, too. If so, then how much was true and how much was fabrication for dramatic purposes (and selling purposes)? Perhaps the entire diary was invented. But if not, then there's a natural curiosity to discover the real people involved. But since nobody has stepped up to convincingly claim personal knowledge of the subjects in the diary, after all this time, it's most likely that the whole thing is a fiction.

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I agree, Dharma. I remember reading this book many many years ago, and it had a deep effect on me. It made me feel terrible that a family lost their daughter.
I was appalled to learn this was fiction, only because I felt 'toyed' with, manipulated. If you want to write a fictional story but loosely base it on troubled teens you've heard of or know, then just SAY that!
Don't add pages of manipulation of how police were called, and there was 'nothing anyone could do.'
Shame on that author.

I felt the same way about "The Blair Witch Project"'s promotion. I love the movie yes, as I like the actors, its scary and very well done. But I thought it over-the-top despicable how the filmmakers put up a 'MISSING' photo on the internet, and pages upon pages of the weepy parents hunting for their lost children.
Real kids go missing every day, and actions like that fake site is like a slap in the face to all of them.



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"Not exactly the same as Alice, but don't kid yourself that these things do not happen, they do."

No, a lot of what happens to alice is just flat out rediculous. Primarily in how she describes the experiences, I know from experience that LSD is absolutely nothing like what she described. And in the end it doesn't even do it well. Read the book of "Requiem for a Dream"...it doesn't mask itself as a true story and makes "Go Ask Alice" seem dull and unimagineative.

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OK, I have only seen the movie, and that was years ago. I have to go read the book I guess, if only to see how she describes a trip. Like you, I'll know bogus if I see it on that subject lol.

But just to be clear,

No, a lot of what happens to alice

I wasn't speaking of all the things that happen in the movie, just that one, and in response to the poster that said "spiked" drinks never happen, The "effects" of said drink were not part of the issue, and he's still wrong.
I'll remember Requiem though, and pick it up, I always have a book going.
Thanks.

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well then again, snopes says that you can loose weight from eating celery. Now isnt that a myth?

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No, it's not, but it might as well be.
You burn more calories getting up off the chair to change the DVD, than you do eating a stalk of celery. lol


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Look, I thought the book was great! I also thought the book was a real factual diary. Now, unfortunately, I guess I'm not so sure about the latter. But it doesn't really matter anyways! I mean the story itself is still great no matter what!

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One thing I have to agree with the snopes info on is at the site they actually mention something to the fact that not one person has come forth claiming to know the girl who wrote the diary. You would think that since the book came out around 1970 or 1971 and is a best seller (required reading at some schools) and made into a tv movie ...... that someone would have mentioned knowing the girl .... whether it's family member(example: her younger brother or sister, former teachers, or friends. I just think it's weird that someone hasn't done this in the 35 years or so since the book has come out.

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Wait a second though - why are we even questioning if its real by scrutinizing her way of writing, if right in the book it says it is a work of fiction? If it says that, obviously it is, and there's no point in being like..."if she were real she wouldn't use such big words" etc..

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Yeah I saw that..at first I was like "Oh hell no, it has to be real." Then I reread it while wondering if it's fake and paying attention to the details, it's so obvious that it isn't a real diary. Alice's experiences with drugs, especially weed, don't sound realistic enough, I've never been high the way she describes. No druggie kid is going to write entries that long and detailed; they'd be out living their life. And stoners and pushers do not pressure people into doing drugs that much, and they defenitely wouldn't waste acid on a straight edge kid. If Beatrice Sparks wanted to write a realistic sounding diary, she shouldn't have made it so obviously anti-drugs.

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I admit I was taken a bit by surprise to find it was not real and just made up but there has always been things in the book that didn't add up and troubled me. One thing is the dates and time just don't add up like when her and her friend open that shop and have all the locals coming in. OK but then you look at the dates and that was for all of about a week and a half, it just didn't seem logical.

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yea when i read the book a few days ago that did stand out to me

"Those who don't appreciate life don't deserve life" ~Saw2

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That's to bad. I really liked the idea that this book was real.

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When I found out Go Ask Alice was fake, I decided to read some of Beatrice Sparks's other novels.

Kim was obviously fake. It ended with her finding a great guy (after a bad one) and I'm pretty sure they were going to get married, too.

About the teacher and student one, does the scene in which the girl cleans the teacher's house sound realistic? Especially the voice-mail message where the teacher's friend called the girl a "chicka-dee". I am very doubtful.

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I read this book when I was about the same age as "Alice" in the diary. And like "Alice", I was somehow naive and believed it all to be true. And I "digged" it.
As for snopes…of course the site is not infallible. But they have some good points. About the big words in the diary…to me, that's normal. I kept a diary as a teen, and partly because I way "playing grown up" and partly because I aspired to become a writer I used lots of big words. This, and overdramatizations. And pseudo-intellectual expressions, like Homer Simpson's "oh! a sextet of ale!" So this does not count for me.
A different question would be: who assembled all the stuff "Alice" scribbled on food bags, waste paper, whatsoever. "Alice" complains that she does not know the date, but if she wanted to still keep a diary, wouldn't she at least get herself a little notepad or so? Drugged or not, any person may want to write down his or her feelings, but I think somebody who does not get him/herself proper writing paper does not care to keep the waste paper he/she scribbled on.
Then the big question…why did "Alice" die? She was presumeably clean, and with one exception (when she took horse together with Sheila and Chris) she did not use lethal drugs. I guess Sparks killed her off so that she be an example that even if you are intelligent and of good will, drugs may destroy your future and your life.
And then for the spiked coke. A drug counselor once told me that the "evil guy who spikes good kids' soda with drugs" does not exist. It was (and is?) a common excuse in front of parents, teachers or guardians: We did not know it was spiked…in reality the kids knew it. Dealers usually don't operate this way.
Last but not least…the fact that Sparks specialized in "editing diaries of anonymous teenagers" makes it quite plausible that the diaries are not real.

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Yeah I gotta admit -- the fact that Sparks wrote all those teen diary books (which were my FAVES back in the day and I had no idea until now they were all written by the same person) definitely leads one to believe she did a great deal of imagining them all, even if they were loosely based on a true story or person.

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"A different question would be: who assembled all the stuff "Alice" scribbled on food bags, waste paper, whatsoever."

This always bothered me too, and I just reread this book and she even says as she's waiting for her parents to come get her that, "I'll probably FILL UP THE REST OF THESE PAGES DESCRIBING THEM (meaning some kids she met) to you, but I don't care. I WANT TO START OVER AGAIN WITH A FRESH YOU, LIKE A FRESH NEW START." or something to that affect. Now, if she were really recording all this on paper bags and stuff, how could she be filling up the last pages of her diary? And there's no way she could have kept track of a diary if she were as stoned out of her mind as she seemed, what with the Priestess of Satan freakouts, blowing the cops to get drugs, constantly on the move, and not even knowing what day it was.

Also- it WAS important how she died! Not knowing was so stupid.

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MAybe SHE was Alice

watching the city spin beneath, I couldnt help but feel like an outsider

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Snopes is Fulla $h1T!

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