"Duke was a major surprise to me. We couldn't have been more polar opposites, emotionally, politically, prejudciously. I was waiting for him to say something anti-Semitic. But despite his positions politically and otherwise, he turned out to be one of the nicest, most generous men I've ever known. I'd walk into a restaurant with him, and he'd never turn anyone away. He'd embrace everybody, was the first person on the set in the morning, the last person to leave at night. He was very dedicated, and a remarkably available human being, unlike many people with whom I agree on many issues, who are awful! So Duke was a big lesson for me in pre-judging."
Why would Wayne have said anything anti-Semitic? Just because he was a conservative? Odd.
In that era, I antisemitism and political conservatism tended to run together more often than would be the case nowadays. That said, Rydell was still making an assumption that evidently proved inaccurate.
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I watched this again the other night when TCM showed it, just love this movie.
I posted this a while back on Wayne's page, but I'll repost here, it's Mark Rydell elaborating on the comments from the original post:
Mark Rydell re: The Cowboys (1972)
"I was absolutely stunned by John Wayne. I mean, he was the exact opposite of all my ideals — he was very right wing — and I was this Jewish musician from the Bronx with pretty liberal views. So there I am sitting with him. He shook my hand — my hand disappeared inside his, it was so big — and he said, 'I’d really appreciate it if you gave me the chance to play this part, sir.' I was completely seduced by him. I told him, 'Let’s never talk about politics, let’s just talk art.'
And he was fabulous; the first guy on the set every morning, and the last guy to leave at night. This man I had loathed… I had disagreed with every position he’d ever taken, but I learned a lot from him, about determination, and commitment.
And he called me 'Sir' for the whole picture! I was a kid, in my thirties, and he was a giant, a 6’ 5” walking icon. It was amazing. We shot it all around Santa Fe, and to walk into a restaurant there with John Wayne… everybody came over for autographs… and I never saw him turn away a single fan.
And he loved being with those kids. And they adored him as well; they climbed all over him like he was jungle gym. He also loved that I cast a bunch of people from The Actors Studio around him, like Roscoe Lee Browne and Bruce Dern. He was very keen to appear with them; he really wanted to show that he was as good an actor as they were.
The cattle drive was really quite complex. We had maybe twenty outriders, ready to come in and rescue somebody in case there was a problem. The kids really were herding those 1,500 head of cattle, and John Wayne insisted on doing everything himself; he had no stuntman. Even in the beginning, when he’s fighting that horse—that’s all him. All that tough riding; he did it all. He was an amazing guy; he just blew my mind. I consider it a major privilege that I spent those 102 days with him. In the end, he impressed me tremendously. And he was so pleased with the picture.
He was a literate, genuine, compassionate human being who spent hours discussing Shelley and Keats with Roscoe Lee Browne, a black actor well-known for his liberal, left-wing philosophy. I expected all kinds of clashes on the set, but Duke had everybody eating out of his hand. As we got into the actual work, I found him articulate and sensitive and totally unselfish.
Because of his opinions, I was prepared to loathe him, but I came away admiring him and realizing that many of my friends, with whose politics I agree, are not half the man he was."
No, conservatives are not viewed that way. During John's career, he did make a couple of provocative remarks, which I'm not going to go into. I just watched a biography about him recently, and read a great deal on his life's events.
I would never hold these remarks against John, because all people make mistakes when saying things, so forgiveness as a concept that should always be the rule. And I don't expect all actors to be experts in politics or the social sciences.
I think some people were under the impression that John was more of a political activist than what he truly was.
Pretty much everyone that met him, liked him. That's the important part.
for some reason, Conservatives are viewed as hateful, greedy and bigoted. That's not true.
... sure, it is not true in general. But the reason why some people possess that image of a conservative is because bigots, people with racial phobias, and those advocating a sort of 'Social Darwinism' brand of capitalism tend to congregate on the political Right. (For instance, David Duke has endorsed Donald Trump's faux-conservative campaign.) Then the stereotyping that is unfortunately endemic to humanity begins to come into play.
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Those who knew John Wayne knew his public persona and private persona were not the same.
JW easily played the war hero in the 40's and beyond, champion of American conservative values,(truly macho :), but in actuality he was morally/politically liberal.
MR is either playing the game, (image vs truth) or simply didn't know the, "duke."
Where are you coming from here? Wayne was very upfront about his very conservative political convictions, which he sometimes brought to the screen in films such as The Green Berets.
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Wayne was very upfront about his very conservative political convictions.
Yes but there was more to him than that.
For instance, he didn't let other people's views prevent him from being friends with them. Henry Fonda, Jane Fonda, Kirk Douglas, and Steve McQueen.
He didn't let other people's sexuality make him prejudice. He liked Laurence Harvey a lot, and when Hollywood was shunning Rock Hudson for being gay, Wayne put him in one of his movies in a big role despite the studio not being happy about it. Hudson credited him for saving his life.
When Jimmy Carter was elected, Wayne wrote him a letter giving him his support, and he also sided with him on the Panama Canal Treaty for which he got a lot of hate mail.
He also came under fire from some Conservatives because even though Wayne wasn't too happy about strong violence in movies or pornography, he also refused to support censorship and spoke out against it.
The very Liberal Paul Newman said he found him to be much more balanced and intelligent politically than he ever imagined, Geraldine Paige said during the making of Hondo he was very fair in his views unlike Ward Bond, and Katherine Hepburn said compared to many right wingers in Hollywood John Wayne was a communist.
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For instance, he didn't let other people's views prevent him from being friends with them. Henry Fonda, Jane Fonda, Kirk Douglas, and Steve McQueen for instance.
He didn't let other people's sexuality make him prejudice. He liked Laurence Harvey a lot, and when Hollywood was shunning Rock Hudson for being gay, Wayne put him in one of his movies in a big role despite the studio not being happy about it. Hudson credited him for saving his life. Where were the Liberals in Hollywood in support of Hudson?
When Jimmy Carter was elected, Wayne wrote him a letter giving him his support, and he also sided with him on the Panama Canal Treaty.
He also came under fire from some Conservatives because even though Wayne wasn't too happy about strong violence in movies or pornography, he also refused to support censorship and spoke out against it.
The very Liberal Paul Newman said he found him to be much more balanced and intelligent politically than he ever imagined
Yes, I am aware of this aspect of his character, although I appreciate your details. I just meant, in response to the other poster, that Wayne's political conservatism was not some act for public consumption.
Ironically, in a 1998 interview, the American Enterprise Institute asked Clint Eastwood if he had ever read Wayne's infamous—if fascinating—Playboy interview from 1971. Quoting from memory, Eastwood replied, "Yeah. Well, he was a big-time conservative." Eastwood then apparently defined his own sense of moderation and openness by stating that he considered a liberal to be someone who believed in equality and a conservative to be someone who was perhaps thoughtful and prudent with money.
I do not doubt that Wayne maintained friendships with people from across the political spectrum, and that sense of personal integrity and fairness pervaded his screen character and helps explain the near-universality of his appeal. And on a personal level, Wayne probably did believe in treating people from any walk of life with equality. On the other hand, his comments to Playboy suggest that on a broader political or sociological basis, Wayne's views fell into a line of thought that proved—not bigoted, per se, but—traditionalist, ethnocentric, or reactionary. Helping Hudson constituted a great gesture, but in his Playboy interview, Wayne suggested that homosexuality proved perverse, he used a term that today is considered an epithet, and he indicated that gay sex failed to represent the kind of sexual activity that God had intended. None of those feelings meant that Wayne was a bad guy—obviously. But many people can be sensitive individuals on a personal basis and then espouse intolerant or insensitive rhetoric in terms of public policy or political concern. It is what I call the "I'm not a racist—I have a black friend—therefore I cannot be a racist" syndrome. Of course, in Wayne's case, his advocacy on behalf of Hudson represented a matter of genuine friendship, not a syndrome.
(As for where Hollywood liberals happened to be regarding Hudson, your question is a good one, but everything evolves. Remember that prior to the Stonewall raid in 1969, the gay rights agenda proved nascent and extremely marginal. Only after Stonewall and the subsequent gay rights movement of the 1970s did mentalities and policies begin to change on a broad basis, leading to the current situation where we are closer to genuine equality than ever before. But the liberalism of the 1960s did not incorporate gay rights in the manner of contemporary liberalism, hence the reason why the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 failed to ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. That point reminds me of the fact that employers can still fire people for being gay, which I consider a disgrace. The major obstacle to changing the law in that regard is the Republican Party, but I cannot absolve Obama and the Democrats of blame for failing to rectify the situation when they controlled Congress in 2009-2010. Back to my point about political evolution, though, consider that Harry Truman constituted a liberal president who furthered the cause of civil rights and racial integration in some very important ways, but he also opposed interracial marriage, which is what produced the current president, who advocated and implemented (pseudo) universal health insurance, a cause that Truman had championed as the first president to do so while in office. So as I indicated, everything evolves—or at least changes.)
Likewise, Wayne counted some prominent Hollywood liberals among his friends, but he never regretted having played a role in exposing some Communists, or Communist sympathizers, in Hollywood during the early Cold War years, even though those individuals were merely 'guilty' or possessing leftist political ideas, not working for the Soviet Union or some international Communist conspiracy. And of course, the result for those exposed was blacklisting and the loss of income and security.
I suppose that what surprised many folks about Wayne—once they came to know him—was that regardless of his views and actions, he proved thoughtful, he was not a hater, and he could bring some ironic or savvy perspectives that guarded against the absolutism that imprisons many ideologues. In other words, he possessed empathy, even if that quality did not always translate to his public comments or broader views.
Your citations have piqued my interest regarding a couple of points.
1) Did Wayne maintain cordial relations with, or a friendship with, Jane Fonda after she became a political radical and, specifically, visited Hanoi in 1972?
2) So why did Wayne support Carter on the Panama Canal Treaty? Had Wayne previously taken the hard line with Ronald Reagan (I imagine so, although I do not know for sure), and if so, why did he change his stance later?
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Did Wayne maintain cordial relations with, or a friendship with, Jane Fonda after she became a political radical and, specifically, visited Hanoi in 1972?
Yes. "I don't agree with what she has to say but I will defend her right to say it"
Wayne chose to award her with the Golden Apple Award as Female Star Of The Year around 77/78.
And when Henry Fonda was receiving a tribute sometime later, Wayne was still on friendly terms with her and her kids. The political disagreements they had, were either left as that or forgotten.
So why did Wayne support Carter on the Panama Canal Treaty?
He simply believed Panama had always being a loyal friend to the US and deserved fair treatment. He liked the place and the people and had spent a lot of vacations there over the years. Despite his friendship with Reagan, he felt his arguments on the treaty were self-serving political nonsense. Wayne vocally supported ratification, and despite tons of hate mail from a lot of Conservatives labelling him a Commie, Marxist Stooge etc, he didn't change his stance. He wrote hundreds of letters to influential Republicans trying to convince them to change their views and personally wrote a seven page position paper on the treaty and sent it to every US senator. Later, Jimmy Carter thanked Wayne for his support, and invited him to the ceremony of the signed treaties but by that time Wayne was in serious ill health.
Wayne was good friends with Steven Spielberg too, and got on well with Mel Brooks who even offered him the role of The Waco Kid in Blazing Saddles, so he definetly wasn't anti-Semitic.
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I think Rydell said that in a self deprecating way - as in, "if you can believe how totally off base my preconceived notions of this man were, I was actually waiting for him to say something anti-Semitic."