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**POSSIBLE MAJOR SPOILERS!** The End...


Hey all,
My mum was telling me about this movie and she said she thought that at the end Ben killed the kid. Is that true? If it is it's waaaay morbid! Thanks for any replies. :)



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Wow, weird. Thank you, I thought I'd never find out! :-)


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That was a joke. The rat doesn't kill the kid.

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Really? Could you please please tell me what really happens? Does he try to kill the kid at all? I have tried to find out myself, but there is no info anywhere and I can't find a copy to watch.


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The rats all get burned to hell and the kid pouts about Ben. Ben then comes in though the window injured and the kid uses a first aide kit to wipe up Ben's blood. Cue MJ's song. The closest thing the rats come to killing a kid is when a bunch of them start biting a kid's leg.

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Thanks for the reply! I've got to say, the song makes a lot more sense with that ending! Thanks so much.

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I've seen both versions of Willard, but can't find "Ben" anywhere... From what I hear, it makes it almost like a feel good movie... Ben is a horrible creature? No?

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I've always thought "Ben" was an interesting movie and somewhat underrated. Yes, there are parts that are totally cheesy; but when you couple it with "Willard," it says a few things about POV. Many critics discounted "Ben" I think for some of the reasons stated here; however, I think there's a slight missing of the point to claim Ben is "cuddly" in "Ben" while he's this horrible creature in "Willard."

In "Willard," there's this human who uses these intelligent rats to attack his enemies. At the end this rat, Ben, turns against this human leader and becomes leader himself. And of course, Ben is this monster ... if you happen to be a human.

The whole point of "Ben" is that "Ben" is not evil. It's just that this sentient rat considers rats to be more important than humans. And that's only natural since he is, after all, a rat.

The difference between Willard and Danny is Willard was using the rats to serve only his own purposes. Danny is just this little kid who befriends "Ben" but doesn't try to control any of the rats. Ben attacks Danny's tormentors on his own free will not based on any orders or control from Danny. So he's willing to work with humans who are willing to work with rats as equals.

It's not that he's against humans. He's just FOR rats.

And of course, when you remember THESE ARE RATS after all, it does get rather silly and cheesy. That's the flaw of the whole premise that makes it difficult to pull off; but when you suspend that and make the analogy to any oppressed group, it works a little better.

So it is a very flawed film but not quite as silly as some may believe.

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You're so right, daybreaq. Ben was nothing but loyal to Willard up until Willard turned against him by trying to kill the rats. It was only then that Ben wanted to destroy Willard. But Danny did not try to destroy the rats, he tried to make them his friends because he was a very lonely child who would not hurt a soul. Everyone else wanted Ben dead except for Danny.

During the end when Danny tells Ben "I'll get better, you'll get better, we'll get better," it made me cry. The entire ending was a really emotional scene. I like how this film was more than a horror movie with evil, killer rats. It was a very powerful story about a lonely, sick child who finally finds friendship. It is one of my favorite movies.

Come, fly the teeth of the wind. Share my wings.

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Okay, I thought I was the only idiot who teared up at the end of that movie. The way this wounded rat came back to the boy, needing help and at that point you got the idea that the two of them were each other's only friend. Without that scene to set it up, the Michael Jackson song doesn't 'work' if you think about it being addressed to a rat but in the context of the end of the movie, it's surprisingly effective.

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The ending still hasn't lost any of it's power. This is about the 5th time I've seen the film and I still get goosebumps each time the song starts playing. It is truly one of the most beautiful moments I have ever seen in any film. I just can't describe how much I love this movie. It is perfect to me in every way.

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Honestly dude. If you're gonna make a bad joke, then get the name right.

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Just watched it for the first time ever. There was something so sweet about it. I expected something extremely bad, outlandish (and there were parts of that for sure) but this was not a horrible movie. I don't know that I would even classify it as a horror movie.

I just liked the friendship that developed between this kid and the rat. Yeah that sounds pretty weird...but still it was very sweet.

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Your mother was kinda morbid. LOL

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