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Look like a bunch of jive (ni**ers)


I literally fell on the floor when Fred said that about Lamont's fiancé's family. Truly a original show.

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Yes watching now And that had me LOL'!! #Classic

Now I am trying to find out who the little boy is ... He also played on A Different World but never has lines

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That was a hoot. Can't do that anymore on TV.

Fred uses that word again in another ep when he's in court.

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For those keeping track, Aunt Esther also uses that word in Season Three to a man claiming to be Lamont's father. Such a different era we live in today.

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Offhand I can't remember the ep but Fred says it again in a courtroom scene saying there are enough of them in there to make a Tarzan movie. That might be the all time funniest line in the whole series. Again-this doesn't fly in any show of today but back then if the right person used such language in the right context it worked brilliantly. I don't think Redd Foxx wrote any of the eps but I'm sure he had lots of input from his stand up comedian experience.

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I've just finished watching Season Three, so I know the episode: "Fred Sanford, Legal Eagle." It's a hilarious line in that context, delivered by a black man, but it's rather shocking today because TV's sensibilities have changed. Redd Foxx used that word often in his stand-up comedy routines, which were bold and hilarious. I think a lot of "Sanford and Son" fans went to see his stand-up show expecting it to be like the sitcom, and they were put off by the off-color language, so to speak.

I wonder: Did any non-black person ever use that word on the show?

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I wonder: Did any non-black person ever use that word on the show?


No. Only Fred and Esther(once).

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Yup!!That ep. was just on the other day! I was cracking up, when that man realized it was Esther and not Elizabeth that he had fooled around with back in the day! That was hilarious!

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It is a hilarious episode!

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Yeah, I'm watching that episode right now...one of my favorites other than the briefcase case and the probably, probably parsially


and the episode in question is MAMA'S BABY, PAPA'S MAYBE

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There was a brief period in the early-'70s when TV shows experimented with the use of that word, for purposes of "realism."

After 1975, however, you're unlikely to hear it, unless it's in ROOTS (1977) or something.

Everyone just decided it would validate the word in some way, to use it openly, so they stopped. And perhaps they were right.

Today, of course, it's quite startling to hear the word in a mainstream sictom or cop show from that era... It almost feels so innocent somehow, in retrospect.

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Red Foxx used the word occasionally on the show b\c he knew blacks used the word in everyday life. Today blacks use the word all the time. Check Twitter sometime (seach for the word in it's derivitates).

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Do blacks use the "ger" word or the "ga" word – and is there any difference?

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To me (a white) I don't see any difference but I usually see and hear the word with the "ga" on the end. If you search Twitter for the word you will see that blacks are not bashful about using the expression, mainly to each other. If they want to use the word then they have the freedom to do so (and it's usually in a humorous sense). But how is it acceptable for blacks to use the word but whites are condemned for using it? Or is it just in the context of how it's used (humor)?

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But how is it acceptable for blacks to use the word but whites are condemned for using it?

Well, there was this guy named James Crow who ran a plantation for eons in Mississippi.

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why would a white person want to use the word and ask why its not acceptable? DO you feel the need to use it? its such a silly question.

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why would a white person want to use the word and ask why its not acceptable?
Yeah, I have never gotten why any white person would think there would ever be any legitimate reason to use that word. It's an ugly word coming from someone outside black culture. I am not black so I would never presume to tell a black person not to use the original word or any of its derivatives. When adults that are not black use that word, I cannot imagine a context in which it would not be offensive. I

know kids from other races may feel it acceptable to use it with other kids in their group that are black...that probably depends on the mores within their group.
I am female and I feel the same way in a slightly less offensive way about men calling women the b* word or, even worse, the c* word. Those words are bad enough coming from other women. But, right or wrong, they sound worse to me when coming from men.

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I never said I want to use the word- I don't. But the double standard is evident. If a word is offensive then I would think any use of it would be offensive. Pretty logical and fail to see why you find that concept difficult to grasp.

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You fail to grasp the concept of context.

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What was the name of the episode abajasds

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The episode (No. 3, Season 1) is "Here Comes the Bride, There Goes the Bride," coonbay. Fred's comment and the hilarious way he delivered it happens in the first 3 minutes of the show. 

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Thank you for the info(:

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Jive *beep* That's pretty funny. Very '70s.

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Awesome Line

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Didn't James use the N word in Good Times? I even think George used it in The Jeffersons.
Ahh, the 70's seemed like such a non pretentious time.
Now, it seems as if everybody tries to too hard to go for the shock factor that it ends up not shocking at all.

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Speaking of the Jeffersons, that's the last time a heard a white person use it in a sit com. Tom got tired of George calling him honky, and said "how would you like it if I called you ni...." george and Louise looked shocked and taken aback, while tge audience said "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

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Before political correctness reared its ugly head!


Why do they call 'em soap operas anyway? Those things are FILTHY!----Fred Sanford

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