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Why are so many 70's sci-fi movies so depressing?!


'Soylent Green', 'Logan's Run', 'Silent Running', they're all miserable! Why is every sci-fi movie from the 1970's the most depressing thing ever made?!

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You probably could add a bunch more. Rollerball is pretty depressing at certain points.

It was a general consensus back then that sooner or later we were going to get into an all out nuclear war with the Soviets. I think from that cold war paranoia came a great deal of what is called "Dystopian" fiction. Dystopian fiction started before the cold war but it seems like the cold war created a huge demand for these types of films. They basically started after WW2 right into the mid 1970's. The big change was "Star Wars" in 1977 which drastically changed what was popular in sci fi movies.

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The environmental movement was in full swing back then, too, and I think it added an air of, "even if there is a detente between the Cold War powers, our population will grow beyond Earth's ability to sustain it, or we'll pollute it into unsustainability."


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pcventures,

Yeah, that's a good point. Rachel Carson wrote "Silent Spring" in '62 so there was definitely a shift in consciousness after that. So yeah, you're right in that another sub-division of the post apocalyptic sci-fi movies of the 60's-70's was environmental devastation that killed off the human population.

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They were really more like feature length morality plays. Another really depressing title "Andromeda Strain". But it's still a good film.

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Yeah, they're all good movies, but I just don't get the timing, really
In the 50's and 60's, we had horror-sci-fi to chill our bones and frighten us of 'those damn Commie bastards'.
In the 70's, we had misery and tragedy as far as the eye could see.
In the 80's, we had epic explorations, deep discoveries, and incredible stories, like 'Star Wars' 5 & 6, some of the 'Star Trek' movies, 'Blade Runner', 'Robocop', 'Terminator', etc...
So how did we go from horror, to tragedy, to [insert Star Wars theme here] in a matter of decades?
More to the point, was there a single uplifting sci-fi movie from the 1970's?!

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So how did we go from horror, to tragedy, to [insert Star Wars theme here] in a matter of decades?
More to the point, was there a single uplifting sci-fi movie from the 1970's?!


That is a damn good question, colin-monger, heh. You know, I understand that that's why Lucas wrote Star Wars, which is not called Star Wars IV (I think). Because Hollywood wasn't making the kind of films he wanted to see. A sort of SCI-FI, meets Robinhood, meets Romantic Comedy, meets Swashbuckling marauders. Thank God he brought us out of the touchy feely SCI-FI Stuff.

Gene Roddenberry was also great for SCI-FI.

I'll be thinking of your question for a while, I'll see if I can remember one. I was a teen in the 70s, there must be at least One out there.

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There were a few, granted, but not many when you compare them to the load of depressing ones, again, like Logan's Run, Silent Running, Soylent Green, etc...
Yeah, Gene Roddenberry was good, but his best creation was the 60's Star Trek show.

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For clarification's sake, you don't count Logan's Run as uplifting? It has a happy ending when you compare it to Silent Running. The hero's not only survive but get to create a new Heaven on Earth, so to speak.

Or are you thinking solely about Star Wars type films?

Films to add for your consideration:

Westworld 1973

The Man Who Fell To Earth 1976 (artsy and depressing)

Superman 1978 (I don't think this one fits the list very well but some argue it does.)

Slaughterhouse Five 1972 (I'm not certain where to put this one).

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I've seen Westworld and Superman already, but I'll be sure to check out the others
And Logan's Run was depressing when you consider the implications of the concept itself. Everyone, EVERYONE, dies at the age of 30. No ways out, no other options. Death at 30. EVERYONE. DEAD. AT THIRTY.

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In the 50's and 60's, we had horror-sci-fi to chill our bones and frighten us of 'those damn Commie bastards'.


You're on the money here - the sci-fi and horror movies (and to some degree even the westerns) played on our fear of the unknown, the Iron Curtain closing all around us. The Xenophobic nature of America at that time led to us viewing aliens as invading and taking over like we were afraid of the Communists doing.

In the 70's, we had misery and tragedy as far as the eye could see.


In the 70s we also had the breaking down of norms that had come before. Movies of the 40s-60s were hampered by what was called the Hayes Code. It was a set of rules where the film industry kind of regulated itself. It was a panel that would not release movies for wide viewing unless it fell into certain perameters - good guys always win, bad guys are always punished, bad guys are distinguished by dark clothing, women couldn't enjoy or seek out sexual gratification, certain words and phrases could never be uttered, particularly the Seven Worst words of George Carlin fame. In these movies, filmmakers often had to be sly and write with inuendo and subtext if they wanted to get away with anything. In some ways it forced them to make better movies, but it really did hold people back creatively.

Then around the end of the 60s and beginning of the 70s we started to see a lot more independent movies, filmmakers either self-financing or gaining financial backing from parties other than the Big 5 (or 6?) film companies. The Hayes Code started to be loosened and the emergence of the anti-hero came into play. Along with the Cold War fears of the previous decades, the anti-hero character also made dystopian sci-fi fashionable, as, if the main character could be hard-as-nails and kill without compunction or act out in other ways, then the society around him should reflect that. As we started to edge closer and closer to the brink of destruction (helped I'm sure by the escalating and never-ending war in Vienam) I think many people started to envision a future after the inevitable nuclear cataclysm.

If you look at the 80s too, a lot of that was very grim as well. Most of Carpenter's horror movies either reflected the class disparity felt during the "Regeanomics" era or a classic sense of wrongness within society. There was the Terminator franchise which also foresaw a nuclear-ravaged future. In fact, the 80s was a very transitional period as far as the tone of many sci-fi/horror movies went - you had slasher films which were nihilistic escapism, and for every "bright" future sci-fi, there was also a "dark" one (an "Enemy Mine" for every "Last Starfighter" if you will). In fact it would seem to me that since the loosening of the Hayes Code and the grim dystopian sci-fi of the 70s there has always been equal providence given to dystopian and utopian sci-fi tales. In fact, many like The Matrix, Cloud Atlas or the recent Star Trek reboots are a mix of both.

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Yeah, I get what you're saying, but to quote Jonah Hex
'Why does everything always have to be so darned sad?'

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'Why does everything always have to be so darned sad?
Yes, "everything" is the key word. It wasn't just science fiction films. The same applied to lots of mainstream films released during this period. Consider: Easy Rider, Vanishing Point, Zabriskie Point, The Parallax View, The Wild Bunch etc. The widespread younger generational call for change in social, political and economic established institutions was generally accepted as stalled and not succeeding and the films of this period reflected a negatively perceived future.

It really did take the far more positive spin of the work of people such as Lucas, Spielberg and Gene Roddenberry that helped arguably redress the balance between depression and optimism for the future.🐭

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This is why I love the 70's films. I really get sick of the all happy endings all the time.

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Don't forget "A Boy and his Dog" - Don Johnson's big break of 1975!


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"Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is one of those "exceptions that prove the rule".

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Don't forget about THX 1138, The Omega Man, A Clockwork Orange, Solaris, Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, Mad Max, Alien, The Black Hole and ALL of the Planet Of The Apes sequels for some dark and depressing 70's sci-fi.

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Are those movies really depressing? Because these are my favorite kind of sci fi. Part of that for me, though, is loving the mid century modern look of the future.

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Believe it or not, there was a whole era of cinema in which science fiction existed to explore the human condition. And one way they did that was to take current trends and project them into the future. The idea of a lot of it was to say "here, this thing we're all doing? If we kept on doing that to the logical extreme, look at what could happen?! Maybe we should give this some thought, huh?"

Then Star Wars came along. And after that, the movie people went "screw all that, audiences don't want to think about stuff, they want to see people shooting at one another and stuff blowing up!"

And so we get the "sci fi action" genre.

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Sci-fi movies in times of stark economic crises are always depressing.
I mean, look at sci-fi movies released in the last 5 years.

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Ha.

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Haha true.

I think what graham said is a great point though, there is an air of skepticism in these movies which seemed prevalent but then almost vanished. I think that's why I like these type so much.

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Interesting.

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Indeed.

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colin-monger-72-325634
» Wed Feb 26 2014 05:48:34
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'Soylent Green', 'Logan's Run', 'Silent Running', they're all miserable! Why is every sci-fi movie from the 1970's the most depressing thing ever made?!

It was the mood of the nation. We couldn't get out of Vietnam, Kennedy had been killed, race riots in LA (or all places) and in the South, the list goes on.

Industrial waste and the pillaging of the environment without cleaning it up was happening. Those films were trying to warn people of an ideal future becoming abusive.

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