During the film, there are many instances where we see Peter Cable playing Bree's phone tape over and over again. Now, because I watched the film in 2 nights I didn't recall Peter Cable was a friend of the missing person. I just thought he was Klute's boss, but not personally acquainted to Tom Gruneman (the missing man). I think this completely ruined the film for me because every time Peter Cable heard Bree's tape I thought "that's odd, Klute's boss getting turned on by the tape?"
This could sound kinda stupid but, I don't know if we're supposed to know right off the bat that Cable is the killer?
I think Cable hired Klute so Klute could lead him to Arlyn Page, who he also wanted killed (although I am not exactly sure why). I can think of no other reason why Cable just wouldn't let things go on as they were.
I think to throw the police off the scent, he decided to pin the dead whore's murder on Tom by implicating him as a pervert: Tom murders a couple of whores and takes off, and at the same time wipes the slate clean for Cable. After Tom's blackmailing became too much, Cable killed him. The police became aware of Bree through a letter found in Tom's typewriter, which we later find out was actually typed by Cable. This suggests that Cable had planted the letter to put the police onto Bree.
There is only one person that stands as a potential obstacle, and that is Arlyn Page who can link him to the dead whore. For his plan to work he needs to kill her. His only link to Arlyn Page is through Bree who he had also been set up with and that's why he fingers Bree (figuratively) by planting the letter and making calls to her. The police identify her, but he knows she won't be able to identify Tom. He then hires Klute who he knows will try and track down the man who beat Bree up, leading him to Arlyn Page so he can murder her. The perfect murder: a dead man takes the rap for the dead whores, and that provides a motive for his 'disappearance'. Klute puts it together though and sets a trap by purporting to buy the dead whore's 'little black book' which would identify Cable. Cable deduces that Bree is the contact for the book which results in Cable having to carry out one last murder...
That's the best synopsis I've read of the story so far, Logan. but it only reinforces my main gripe: If Tom did pull a Ripper, doesn't that only make us want to know more about what became of him? I think Tom's disappearance is the film's black hole. Who was he? Was he a killer?
"Follow those who seek the truth. Beware of those who find it."
Lol, we keep bumping into each other don't we gnolti - please tell me you're a 25 y/o hottie with a lovely smile and a nice pair of C cups?? If we take Cable at his word (and since he is planning to kill Bree he has no reason to lie) then Tom is only a blackmailer, and a dead one at that (since Cable admits to killing three people - the two whores and presumably Tom). I think the lack of resolution with regards to Tom is a problem the film implicitly acknowledges within itself - the stalker's real identity is exposed (or at least heavily hinted at) near the beginning of the film. It's like the film itself is telling us not to get too hooked on the Tom character because he's not really the stalker - otherwise why expose Cable so early on?
Tom actually starts off as a central character, but ultimately becomes just an incidental one as events unfold, so maybe it would have been jarring to bring the plot back to what happened to Tom? Maybe too convenient to have a full resolution? I'm sure the script could have had Cable elaborating a bit more on precisely how he did away with Tom without going off at a tangent, but maybe we have just got too used to modern films dotting the 'i's and crossing the 't's for us. I think the black hole is deliberate because it means Klute actually failed his mission: he never discovered the true fate of his friend.
tom wasn't a blackmailer.cable made it clear that he killed tom out of paranoia,because just knowing that tom knew about the killing had become unbearable for cable.
Tom discovered Cable just after he hit Jane. It's not clear hw much after that Cable murdered him - he implies he was afraid of blackmail, but we don't know if that was a realistic fear or paranoia.
That letter may have been planted.
Or perhaps Tom was watching his boss, and found the letter shortly before Cable killed him.
I don't think Cable hired Klute in order to find Arlyn. I beleve that Klute volunteered his services, and Cable couldn't refuse without drawing suspicion. He probably figured that Klute, being a small town PI, wouldn't get very far. But when Klute turned up Arlyn and was moving closer to identifying him as the violent john, Cable was forced to kill her.
It became pretty obvious early on who the killer was. Too bad. It would have been a better movie if it kept us guessing a while longer.
I don't think Cable hired Klute in order to find Arlyn. I beleve that Klute volunteered his services, and Cable couldn't refuse without drawing suspicion. He probably figured that Klute, being a small town PI, wouldn't get very far. But when Klute turned up Arlyn and was moving closer to identifying him as the violent john, Cable was forced to kill her.
That's a plausible alternative and you could be right but it raises other questions. For instance, why would Cable plant the letter (which seems the most likely explanation) which puts the police on to Bree who could potentially connect him to a murder? And why didn't he just bump off Bree before Klute could get to her since the police were convinced Tom was stalking her - it would have made his life a lot easier? And why go to all the trouble of following them around anyway if he wasn't interested in finding Page? It seemed to me he wanted to eliminate everyone who could connect him to the murder and that meant getting rid of Tom, Bree and Arlyn Page too. It's a standard assassination in many ways: pin the assassination on the patsy, take out the patsy and everyone that links you to the hit.
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I agree. Peter Cable should have killed both Bree and Aryln by the middle of the film, and the rest of the show should just have Klute connecting the pieces together, with Cable telling the dick where and why he killed Tom G.
I think you're putting Cable in a postion of more intelligence than he deserves. He's obviously a rather sick puppy and was caught redhanded in his activities. As he said in the climax, he thought that Tom would use his perversion to his own advantage and panicked, killing Tom. That obviously meant the girl had to go too. Cable's pretty convinced that he won't be discovered as the cause of Tom's disapperance (who would expect the suburban executive?) so he continues his other pasttimes of stalking, obscene letter writing and "breather calls", all while the cops conveniently think they're being committed by Tom.
This seems to be a failsafe arrangement and Cable's confident that Tom's best friend, some policeman named Klute, won't come to any more incriminating conclusion. However when this policeman turned private detective contacts one of the letter recieving callgirls by the name of Bree (an unexpected twist!), he gets closer and closer to Cable's secret truth. Cable once again panics and decides to eliminate all connections to his original crime, including killing another callgirl who had been in his company named Arlyn. He also ransacks Bree's appartment, perhaps to scare her out of cooperation with Klute; however he makes one fatal mistake: semen has blood types in it!
From this Klute deduces that since the bodily fluid is not of his friend's blood type, Tom is not behind the stalking. So where are the letters and such coming from? In a bold move Klute calls for an analysis of all possible suspects' typewriting styles. There's one match to the obscene letters: Cable.
Cable knows he's in deep s**t now and Klute knows he knows. Klute cunningly manipulates Cable into thinking that the incriminating piece of evidence is actually an adress book that had belonged to Arlyn. Klute knows that he'll be able to catch Cable when he tries to intervene, which he undoubtedly will. As a result of a personal altercation between Klute and Bree (by this point they have developed a bit of a relationship), Klute isn't present when Cable makes his move, making it a rather suspenseful moment. Deciding to inform Bree just why he's killing her before he does so he tells the story behind Tom's initial disappearance (he murdered him). Cable is mid-strangle when Klute finally rushes in and in yet another panic, Cable jumps through a window.
The ending regarding Bree and Klute's relationship might be better saved for another thread (I myself accidently started one=]).
Cable was just a pervert, not a scheming genius. His efforts to cover up the crime, just like the crime itself, were reckless and miscalculated. But just as a scheming genius, which Cable probably considered himself, he thought his efforts were enough to keep from getting caught. Obviously he was wrong.
Wow that was way longer than I intended it to be, sorry.
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That just doesn't make sense! It is significant that the police come aware of Bree after they find a perverted letter to her in Tom Gruneman's desk AFTER he has already killed him, so the only plausible explanation is that Cable planted it. Why? Obviously he wanted the police to become aware of Bree. But to what end? He knew he was safe from identification by Bree because the police were looking for Tom, but he knew Klute would try tracking down the man who beat her up which would mean locating Arlyn Page. If he didn't want Klute to track down Arlyn Page he would never have put the police onto Bree. He wants to get rid of the other person who can connect him to the murder victim so that means finding Page and killing her, but Bree is his only link to her. Klute actually identifies the killer not through blood types but by comparing the obscene letter found in Gruneman's desk to samples at his company and gets a match with Cable. It's a clever plan - I think it's more the case you can't understimate Cable's intelligence no matter how sick and twisted he is!
Ok, a lot of what you say makes sense (I don't really pay attention to the actual thirller part of the story anyway, I'm too distracted by the relationship, that's the film's high point) but he only calls for the analysis of the typing after the blood type clears Tom. This brings us to a strange point, why didn't they just compare them in the first place?
After what you said it is logical the Cable planted the letter. But I can't help but think he only did that to put Tom's disapperance under less suspicion of foul play. I don't think he thought as far ahead to Klute's search for the violent client (although it would have been wiser to), Cable was probably confident that after all the time had past she wouldn't remember the name or the face. He also might have been confident that Klute wouldn't get anywhere with Bree (but boy did he!). This means a dead end and a free ride for Cable.
Although as I said, if one dwells on this aspect of the movie they're definately missing out on an incredibly unique character/relationship study. But the duality is what makes this such a great and unbelievably underrated film.
BTW, Always a pleasure talking with you LOGAN5=]
"I never dreamed that any mere physical experience could be so stimulating!" -The African Queen
Cable had been looking for Arlyn Page for a long time so I think he was forced to take drastic action and concoct a plan to 'out' her. He could have picked anyone for Tom to 'stalk', but he chose to put Bree in the frame. I've always believed that Klute on the thriller front plays out more as an assassination conspiracy thriller rather than whodunnit anyway i.e. elimate everyone connecting you to the hit; set up the patsy; kill the patsy - except Klute reverses the order. That Pakula was king of the conspiracy thriller in the 70's doesn't surprise me. But like you say, plot details are relegated to being a secondary aspect of the film in favour of the characterisations of Bree and Klute and the depiction of their relationship. The only other film I can think of with such a complex characterisation as Bree is Theresa Dunn in "Looking For Mr Goodbar".
At some point in the movie, Cable says "I killed three people." One had to be Tom. The other two were girls that Bree knew, Arlyn and Jane I think. Tom walked in on him in New York and discovered him with a woman not his wife.
This movie was stylish and I wanted to like it more but really couldnt. Why would the killer keep pursuing Bree etc when no one was putting anything together and he completely would have gotten away with everything if he had just left well enough alone...pointless and Jane Fonda won an Oscar for this? really? She was good but overall not a good movie or great role. just didn't like it.
The opening shot of the movie is a shot of the recorder sitting on the dining room table at a dinner party that Cable is attending with Gruneman, his family and John Klute.