that there was gonna be something messed up? The third guy with his half smile looking and John and his girlfriend kissing is totally out of place. It looked like he wanted to kill his friend or something.
I don't know if the flashbacks really contributed to the story but they definitely made the movie more interesting.
I never really understood the relationship that the three shared, I almost got the feeling they were swingers. I mean, just look at the ending, first John was making out with the woman and when he was done, his friend just dug in as well. Wtf?
shareColor me confused too. I thought at first maybe Sean and the girl was brother/sister, but the ending certainly blew that away.
sharei thought the three were friends in a jules and jim and femme sort of relationship. it was a very affecting movie and the ambiguity of what went on in sean's past didn't weaken the film. it didn't really matter what happened to the girl because sean had forfeited all hope of happiness when he joined the ira. mexico was just and extension of ireland. the plot was the same, just the players had changed.
sharegetting shot RIGHT in that mole was 1 in a million.
shareI agree with the first poster, the way the first flashback was filmed you just had a sense that everything was not how it appeared to be. It's kind of similar to the opening of the movie Blue Velvet where everything looks so right that it feels wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym2xF6Wv-5E
Listen to the dvd commentary - it will explain it all
share"I agree with the first poster, the way the first flashback was filmed you just had a sense that everything was not how it appeared to be. It's kind of similar to the opening of the movie Blue Velvet where everything looks so right that it feels wrong."
I am not sure if anything was ''wrong''; in the very last flashback sequence they all still looked happy so it doesn't really reveal that anything was ''wrong''.
As some one stated before they could be swingers...or just happy for some unknown reason.
"Jai Guru Deva, Om"
John's friend was one of the guys who "reads the books" as Juan put it, and a clear parallell of the doctor in Mexico. The scene at the end was symbolic of how the intellectuals manipulate the workers for their own purposes, and end up taking everything from them. At least I thought so anyway.
I really gotta find better ways to waste time.
The way I saw it was that the girl was in love with Sean, and the friend got jealous and betrayed him at the pub. So Sean turned around and shot him.
Then at the end, they show her kissing both of them, so that obviously happened before the betrayal.
So Sean's friend got captured, and betrayed Sean so he would get killed/captured, and he would get the girl. But Sean was ready and blew them all away.
This comes back to the doctor being captured and betraying them. Sean has already been the victim of being double crossed by a friend.
Couldn't agree less, the two were as close friends as possible. They could share the same girl and everything. But seems the friend got captured, tortured, and forced to turn against them. He knew that Sean was ready for them. And when Sean is about to kill him, he hesitates at first but know it is his duty to kill the betrayer. No jealousy
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SPOILERS!!!!
I was watching this with my parents, and i was like 'hah his friend must be sooo jealous in the car'. then i saw the glance he gives to his friend in the bar, and and i wasnt sure if he was going to shamefully rat his friends out like the Doctor, or just give a glance at him and say his last 'I LOVE YOU MAN! GOODBYE'
and Sean POWS the cops with a shotgun, which definitely suprised me, and his friend gives Sean another cheesy loving glance like 'i love u man, thanks for takin ' car of the cops'... then sean shoots his friend, and im like What The Hell again??? haha.
then when they are running and frolicking down the meadows at the end, im say to my mom 'hah i bet this is a love triangle... his friend is gonna to say to his bud, "hey sean, time to share some of your wifes booty, buddy" half joking around. and then his wife goes all french on his friend , and me and my mom started laughing, cause i didnt REALLY expect a love triangle to be true. i just thought it was old time cheeseball factor in movies, where everyone just acts a lil, well, fruity. it was hilarious, just threw me off. anyway, great movie from Sergio. really been loving watching all these westerns from netflix recently.
EDIT: read a bit more about it "[as he was dying], he continues to have memories of his best friend and a young woman both apparently loved [love triangle]. John recalls killing the friend after being betrayed by him to the law."
a few questions... why did he shoot his friend? i thought at that point they both could get away. or was he ashamed he ratted others out and kinda asked his friend with his loving glance to shoot him (cause i saw a few people pointed out by the cops and he seems to be ratting them out shamefully after a torture session)?