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Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad move?


One thing that always drives me up the wall about Sergio Leone movies is the sudden switch from a long shot to jarring close-ups of people's eyes, usually held for an inordinate period and accompanied by inappropriate music. He seemed to do this about every five minutes. You just want to yell "OK, I have just looked at this person's eyes for 15-20 seconds. How significant. Can we get on with the story now?"

But more than that, he's just plain sloppy. Fatso Rod Steiger is just plain unconvincing as a Mexican bandit, especially with the awful accent he used. Where did that come from? James Coburn's Irish accent was pretty bad, too. Sergio Leone didn't want to spring for dialogue coaches, I guess.

What was the reason for the menage a trois in Ireland? Makes no sense. In fact, the motivation for the actions of all the characters makes no sense, changing all the time.

The goofs about the weapons shows more sloppiness. A Browning 1935 model in 1913? A German 1942 model machine gun? And how about the water-cooled WW2 American machine gun--with no water cooling attached? And how about attacking with about 50 rounds loaded in the machine gun and firing thousands of rounds without reloading?

Major and frequent distractions like these run through this film and just pull me out of the picture. But most of all, it just resembled an overlong video game. A lot of action, but when the movie is over, you're left with the feeling that there's just no meat on them bones.

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yes

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Why do people all the time complain about supposedly bad accents of Australian, , Scottish, Irish..etc, yet no one complains about horrifically fake imitations of Russian and German accents in virtually all movies. (Just listen to Mischa Barton in You and I, it makes you go crap yourself)

Weapons? Who gives a *beep* I don't have a weapon fetish and I don't care.

Leone was a very good director, but this movie isn't on the level of TGTBTU or OUATITW, I agree.

Two guys and a girl scene was pretty weird, someone might get the wrong idea if you don't understand the symbolism, but I bet 99% of people watching didn't.

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No.It's terrible.

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No.
4/10
But I have to watch it a second time, because that's what I recommend people do in the case of the wonderful Once Upon a Time in the West, if they didn't like/appreciate it after the first viewing...


"Did you make coffee...? Make it!"--Cheyenne.

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But I have to watch it a second time, because that's what I recommend people do in the case of the wonderful Once Upon a Time in the West, if they didn't like/appreciate it after the first viewing...


Yes do so, you miss quite a lot the first go-round because you are expecting the Dollars trio.

three examples:

The Omnibus Robbery (could this be a first in Westerns?)

This Omnibus Robbery might also be the longest and most elaborately staged act of “highway robbery” ever filmed for a Western it runs about 20:16 minutes. Leone by continually focusing closer and closer to each passenger as they berate the lowly peasant Juan naturally is focusing the viewers attention to each of the characters their the eyes, their facial expressions, their lips and the words they speak. By being this close, basically conversational close, if you are an “eye reader” one who instinctively reads the eyes of the people you communicate (as opposed to a “lip reader”) with you will see that what sex deprived Adelita (Maria Monte) is saying and what she is actually communicating to Juan with her eyes, lips, mouth, and body movements are two entirely different things.

The sight and stink ( perhaps pheromones) of a real man are arousing Adelita as she feigns disgust with her words but actually fantasizes about the sex life of peons. Shrewd Juan is keyed in to her body language and reads/observes that she is sex starved.

The Last Corrida (the circular space)

When the Omnibus is finally stopped by Juan’s family he takes Adelita’s husband outside and asks him point blank if he “can make a baby?”, is Juan asking him if he’s impotent or if is it the best way an unsofisticated peon bandit like Juan can ask if he is a homosexual. Regardless, when he answers no, (the Last Corrida begins at 15:26) Juan calls for the senorita and then tells the husband that he “will fix that.” She comes out on her own volition even telling one of Juan’s son’s to let her go and Juan helps her out and Juan escorts her with a pat on the ass into the corrida.

Here now begins Leone’s last corrida duel this time instead of a Mexican standoff between men to the death, we have the ancient, sexually charged, eye contact standoff between a man an a woman, our raison d'être, The Mating Ritual. The setting starts on the corrida itself Leone's usual location for a duel to the death but this duel is for another end and not suited to the corrida, Juan quickly motions for Adelita to enter the "shelter" the barn/animal stall. There is even a bit of playful whipping to get her into the small "shelter" where her peon fantasies will become realized. She barely needs the coaxing All this eye to eye duel is accompanied by a weird Morricone “Amore” degüello. Juan’s asking with his eye’s and she concedes/surrenders with hers allowing the dance to begin. Juan exposes his gun/erection to her and she indeed does not look away but shows interest and an excited state, its all consensual (end of “Amore” degüello). Juan penetrates her and we cut ahead in time, the last corrida ends when Juan takes Adelita’s jewelry and thanks her (it lasted about 4:13).

The First Trailer (or mobile home)

We see next the Miranda bandit family’s transformation of the omnibus into for all intends and purposes a “trailer”, with a stove pipe jutting out of the hole in the roof, spewing black smoke, ornately ridiculous, what can only be called patio furniture, with even a period brass portable stove standing in for a “grill” could this be an unintended but amusing depiction of what we’d refer to today as trailer “folk” They had moved the omnibus to a whole new location and set up the camp without wakening John

Cool stuff.

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No, you are not.

(This is posted for entertainment. Don't get upset.)

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