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I wanted the big guy with the machete to have a more dramatic death...


I know it was good that dog, and the indian took a chunk out of him, but I wanted even more. John Wayne skewering him was good but a little anticlimactic.
The machete killings were more disturbing BECAUSE they did not show anything.
When I first saw this as a kid, I was terrified of this guy.

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Yea! Also the music, (horn blowing) everytime the machete was used added a scarey effect! I felt for the dog!!

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I always thought that guy didn't die bad enough.

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Yeah, but John Wayne's look of bored disgust when he yanked the pitchfork out of the guy's ample gut and just pushed him away was rather amusingly dismissive.

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Yeah. I think the poor dog should have been allowed to rip his throat out before he died.

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In the beginning they did say he was probably the worst one of the outlaws, and I have to agree!

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I know they didn't show his machete on the dog, but I did expect to hear a yelp when he got it. I kinda wish that when Wayne threw his empty gun at him that it would have hit him in the face and he would have shown more pain from that than all the injuries he just received. Would have had a good laugh on that!

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That fat bastard is burning in movie hell, where all movie henchmen and thugs go for eternity!

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Works for me.

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I know it was good that dog, and the indian took a chunk out of him, but I wanted even more.

The way they played it, I believe that at least one of Little Jake's two derringer shots was intended to be among his wounds too.

He's mean, evil, and tough; but not very bright or skilled. Everybody that he goes after draws blood from him.

And Big Jake's coup de grace with the pitchfork is a gut wound. Those are very painful; and even though they can be immediately debilitating, they are not quick deaths (for him, it would be a matter of how quickly he bled out).

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Dead is dead is dead. We can't ask any more than that...and what PillowRock says is true. Abdominal wounds are most painful of all. He suffered and lost control of his bowels prior to death. Let us be happy with that, shall we?














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Only being able to watch John Wayne and Disney growing up, this movie impacted me a lot. When Dog was murdered it was the first time I really ever hated a man and then rejoiced at his death. I wish I had realized(or remembered) that fatty killed the Indian friend also.
But I wasn't afraid, I was livid with anger. Probably part of what still drives me today as a dog rescuer.
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I think it would of been more fitting that the Little kid would of been the one to end the Fat Bastards life. Over all I agree with everyone he deserved to die a more horrible death. Two things you don't kill in Movies Kids or Dogs. He ranks up there with Bill Sikes from "Oliver" who deserved Death in a movie.

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He did. They cut the scene where he crawled out to the ocean, drifted among sharks who ate his liver, to an island where a guy made dinosaurs from frogs, where a raptor ate the rest of his organs.



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