WHAT Republic of San Marcos, or San Mateo, or San Lucas, or San Juan???!!! Except for El Salvador=The Saviour, and Republica Dominicana=Republic of Saint Dominic of Guzman, there are no Spanish American countries with religious names. The names of Spanish American countries are either Indian--Mexico, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Uruguay--, or geographical--Costa Rica, Honduras, Puerto Rico--, or Latin: Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia. Who the devil started this myth--this LIE that Spanish American countries have names like San Cocho (beef stew) and San Dia (watermelon)???
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Good job forgetting a few nations... Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Lucia French posession of Saint Martin Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Sint Maarten (Dutch) Guadeloupe (named after Santa Maria de Guadeloupe)
You are very exotic looking--is your dad a G.I.? --Michael Scott
Its said to be a Caribbean, all the places I listed are Caribbean and some of them were Spanish colonial possessions. Either way, I think you are annoyed by it is pretty stupid, I mean its a Woody Allen comedy. It'd be like getting upset at the made up European nation's name in the Princess Diaries.
You are very exotic looking--is your dad a G.I.? --Michael Scott
A movie that shows that Allen, for all his airs of intellectualism, knows nothing about Latin America, something way too frequent in this country. In 2008, the people of Peru were justifiably angry at George Lucas and Steven Spielberg for portraying their country--in the last Indiana Jones movie--as if it were Mexico under another name, something that is most definitely not the case. God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Hijo, don't get your panties in a wad - "San Marcos" is a made-up name for a made-up country. And try to remember that Bananas is a screwball comedy, not a documentary on Latin America.
I've got a Special News Bulletin for you - SCREWBALL COMEDIES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE REALISTIC. Didn't Howard Cosell's play-by-play of the assassination tip you off? Or the patient talking to the surgeon who's operating on him? Did you actually think American priests did TV commercials for cigarettes? Did you actually believe J. Edgar Hoover was an African-American woman?
Oh, and by the way - before you visit the Duck Soup board, I think you should be aware "Freedonia" and "Sylvania" are also made-up names for made-up countries.
The caricatural image of Latin America presented regularly in the movies causes constant damage to the interests of the continent. I'll bet the US State Dept's inept handling of the crisis in Honduras is due in part because many in Foggy Bottom think of LA in terms of such trash as EVITA and MOON OVER PARADOR.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
The fact is, most people would never look at Bananas as a realistic depiction of Latin America - they aren't that stupid. They see it for what it is: A Screwball Comedy.
And since Bananas does nothing but ridicule the USA for its support of Latin American dictators, I doubt that anyone at Foggy Bottom was heavily influenced by the film.
If you want to discuss Evita and Moon Over Parador, than go to THOSE boards - Woody Allen had nothing to do with either of them.
Why is it that every movie depiction of LA's politics always comes out as farce? The movie with my compatriot Benicio del Toro as Ernesto Guevara is certainly so silly that it makes BANANAS seem like an HISTORY CHANNEL documentary.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Why is it that every movie depiction of LA's politics always comes out as farce?
Well, I certainly wouldn't consider The Official Story "a farce."
But if you're wondering why Bananas comes across as a farce, the answer is simple - it's SUPPOSED to be a farce. Creating a farce was the intention of the filmmakers.
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Then you know that that is an Argentinian movie, which makes it something very different from US junk such as EVITA and Soderbergh's CHE. It seems that only movies made by Latin Americans are accurate portraits of LA. God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Why is it that every movie depiction of LA's politics always comes out as farce?
As you can see, you made no distinctions in your original post. These were your exact words: "Why is it that EVERY movie..."
And of course I saw The Official Story; I wouldn't mention it unless I had. It's a great piece of filmmaking. But there's a world of difference between a serious story about Argentina's military dictatorship, and a lunatic farce about a New York intellectual's laughable attempts at becoming a revolutionary. There is, however, room for both in the world of international cinema.
(I never saw Che. But I thought everyone knew that Evita didn't reflect anything but the mindset of Andrew Lloyd Webber.)
But this is all beside the point. The topic here is Bananas, which IS a farce because that's exactly what Woody Allen set out to make. Don't expect realism, because realism is not what screwball comedies are about.
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the way he lost the favor of Puerto Rico, where BANANAS was filmed. PR used to love WA; WHAT'S NEW, PUSSYCAT, TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN, PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM, EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SEX and SLEEPER were all big hits. LOVE AND DEATH was a stumble; not very many people got the point of all those jokes about Tolstoii and Bergman. Since then, it has been mostly downhill; movies like ANNIE HALL and MANHATTAN didn't exactly set attendance records in PR. Boricuas are not fascinated by those angst-ridden and tormented love affairs that fascinate Allen so much. A clarification: there are several thousand Jews in PR, mostly residents of San Juan. The problem is that they don't have the kind of cultural influence that Jews in the USA have, with the result that that brand of humor for which people like WA and Jerry Seinfeld are so famous is simply not undertandable to Puerto Ricans. Shall I tell you the story of HANNAH AND HER SISTERS? I received the issue of MAD with the HANNAH parody before the film arrived in PR; once I read the parody, I realised the movie would be a tough sell in PR. Indeed it was; the movie was distributed mostly in the big cities where the better educated people live, and even there business was, at best, indifferent. My mother watched it with me, and could not figure it out. She and several others complained to the theatre manager, who--surprise!--agreed with us about how tedious HANNAH was, and apologised profusely. What happened to Allen? Did he suffer an INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS' experience where his real funny self was taken away and was replaced by a tiresome pedant no one can stand?
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
My favorite Woody Allen films are Manhattan, Love and Death and Bananas. I also admire Hannah And Her Sisters, Husbands And Wives and Bullets Over Broadway. And there are numerous classic moments and great performances in his other movies.
And though I can't address his standing in Puerto Rico (and I seriously doubt you speak for every filmgoer there), Woody Allen has been one of America's most internationally praised and highly regarded filmmakers. Since his cinematic career began in the mid-60s, he's been honored with awards not just in the USA, but also in (among others) the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Spain.
A lot of comedy doesn't travel well across cultural divides. For example, as an American, I've never found Jacques Tati to be the least bit funny. Anyway, what makes you think Woody Allen gives two turds about what people in Puerto Rico think of his films?
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BANANAS was filmed in Puerto Rico with the full cooperation of the government and the local talent; he has every reason to be grateful to the country and its people.
God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)
Does he have any Puerto Rican fans? I remember that movie critics in PR--including US-born Juan Gerard, whose Spanish was so poor that basically what he wrote was English with Spanish words--spent jeroboams of ink trying to explain to their readers what Allen is all about. God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)