Phibes Undead?


I just caught this film on TCM and loved it. But I must've missed something apparently... How did Dr. Phibes come back from the dead? I suppose the obvious guess would be scientific equipment/chemicals or something of that sort. But how did he really return???

...It's hard to ignore a face like this...

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/33457558/?qo=26&q=by%3Asideshowmonkey&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps

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And a follow-up question, which may also sound stupid...

What is the deal with the pieces of face flesh? Obviously Phibes is now a rotten corpse, and his face is partially decomposed, so what I'm asking is: Was Vincent Price's face the face of another person he killed (i.e. Leatherface/ Frankenstein's Creature)? Or did he somehow recreate his own face (i.e. Darkman)? ...In other words, did the living Dr. Phibes look like Vincent Price? Or did a victim type person of Dr. Phibes' look like Vincent Price?

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In answer to your question, Phibes did not come back from the dead because he was'nt dead to begin with...according to the storyline, Phibes was trying to get home upon receiving word of his wife's emergency surgery, but his car crashed and he was presumed killed...his face was a result of the crash....by the way, if you have'nt seen it yet, there was a sequel, both available on DVD.Hope this helped!

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STUPID ME! Wow, I guess I really was missing something, I just kinda assumed he was a walking corpse. That must've been some car crash then... But I suppose my second question is still relative. Did Phibes just skin some guy (aka. Vincent Price), and then paste it on his face to look normal?---Or what? Cuz obviously, Vincent Price's face as seen in the film, isn't actually Dr. Phibes' real face because his is mutilated by then. What's the deal?...

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Don't be so hard on yourself...some movies take more than one viewing. Regarding Phibe's appearance, he rebuilt his face into a life mask he wore...we never see him do this, but once or twice during the film he sits down at a table and we see him pick up an artificial ear, nose, etc....I can only assume he made these out of morticians wax for himself, and I assume it was as close as he could get to his pre-crash face.....kind of like Price did in House of Wax...

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Phibes is presumed burnt to death in the car accident he was in so his skull-face is presumably the result of extensive burns. The 'face' he slaps on whenever he goes a-killing are latex appliances.

Hard to imagine anyone with that amount of skin damage would survive (burnt throat and lungs as well) but since he eats and talks through a hole in his neck we have to suspend disbelief!

I love the original movies (the first horror films I ever saw, I was 6 years old!) but I would love to see a well made 'revision'. Step up Mr Burton...

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Phibes died in the explosion -- he even tells Beiderbeck this.

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While he is said in the first movie to have survived the crash, Phibes himself also claimed to be dead in both films. This is easily explained as a metaphoric use, his former life of happiness with his wife having ended with her death (and the crash), though his appearance doesn't hold up to that. Bad makeup effects notwithstanding, he seems too much of a dessicated corpse to be able to survive, clever machinations or not. And while seen to be eating and drinking, after a fashion, we do not see any aperature in the back of his neck into which he is actually placing such. The ambiguity is obviously intentional, and personally, while the unfocused and unfounded nonsense of other movies of the relative era and genre doesn't hold my interest, the way the Phibes movies deal with his existence is much preferred to more recent movies (and remakes) which seem to feel the need to over-explain everything to the audience.

I imagine it's already been proposed, but what if he really did die, and he's just a revenant kept alive via the use of some knowledge he gained in his arcane acoustical-religious studies? This might answer the mystery of Vulnavia, as well; perhaps he cut a metaphysical deal and has returned with an incarnation of Death accompanying him in the form of the lovely and transcendent (near-) mute? This would also add some extra meaning to the loving way he interacts with her (especially all that dancing), her mysterious appearance at the start of the first film and reappearance/disappearance in the second, and her change of actress (she simply incarnates in a new body). The extra irony of while she is apparently his servant, it is really quite the reverse situation, also suits her being Death. Of course, not explaining that on-screen also works, as if a viewer prefers she be clockwork or a clone or a mysterious cult member or whatever, she can be that, too.

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loved that post.

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