I know that memories fade over time, but on the excellent commentary John Hurt states that ALL the interiors were filmed in a studio whereas in an interview Sir Dickie(top-class performance here) states they used the actual house.Who`s correct?I also understand that all exteriors were filmed in the actual location shortly before the street was demolished.Does anyone know what`s there now?
According to the trivia link, it was filmed IN 6 Rillington Place, but as the interior of these houses were dark and dismal looking, I wouldn't be suprised if the interior shots were re-created in a studio. The exterior shots are definately Rillington Place, before they were demolished
shareit's just around the corner from me.... where it used to be... the cafe that they sit in is still around, or was the last time i looked... and yeah as far as i know they filmed much of it at house down the road... though i thought that number 10 was already demolised then and that they used a house down the road for the exteriors too.... could be wrong though
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It was always a pretty dingy street but the new buildings are even worse than Rillington place which could have been done up. Being on the outskirts of Notting Hill they could have been worth a lot of money now, especially as a Cul de Sac.
shareactually, the cul de sac is visible on Google Earth.
Just enter "Ruston Mews, London" and you'll go straight there.
Currently, you can see a train running parallel the street formerly known as Rillington Place.
There is an area of clear(ed) land on the north side of the mews which, if that's the even side, would have been number 10.
In fact, if I remember correctly from the film, the house was on the left as one walks down the street from the main road.
It seems that the plot has never been built on because of the atrocities that happenend there. woh!
For tourists looking for a gory (yet whistle-stop visit) it's only round the corner from Ladbroke Grove tube station.
Rushton Mews is the name for the rebuilt street which is quite different from the old Rillington place as can be seen from the completely new housing.
No 10 was at the end of the street on the left hand side, where a wall separated the Iron works from the Rillington Cul de Sac.
It is hard to know if the exact place where No 10 was is built upon since the whole area is now different partially due to the WestWay but the notoriety was not really taken into account in the rebuild at all.
Originally this was part of the old Ladbroke Grove Hippodrome (1837-42)
Exterior shots were outside no.10 interior shots either no.6 or no. 8. Rillington Place itself was renamed Ruston Close in 1954,(Ruston Mews is a nearby road which exsisted at the the same time as Rillington Place).The name change did not deter sightseers and in 1971 Ruston Close was demolished ,its demolition was filmed by British Pathe news.The immediate area was then redeveloped,deliberately altering the road lay out .The new road,Bartle Road,follows a slightly different line to the old road so that,Rillington place would be where the flats of St Andrew's Square are ,with rear end of the garden of no.10 backing onto what is now Wesley Square (see Google Earth)
This is correct except in the 1950's the garden would have backed onto the garden of the houses on Lancaster Rd. I mention this point because of the burials which took place in the back garden. He would not have been seen from the road and the fence/wall would have shielded him , to an extent, from viewing by the Lancaster Rd houses.
The whole of this area was extensively redeveloped after the west way was built.
The last 2 posts are correct. Ruston mews is DEFINITELY NOT Rillington Place. It's only a private road because bus loads of tourists think it's Rillington Place.
sharewas 6 rillington place a privately owned house or council ?-either way must have got a fair whack for allowing filming there
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Rushton mews lol.
Ranks with Hells Kitchen being re-named Clinton.
Indeed, this seems to be correct.
I doubt very much due to technical restraints, that they would have been able to film IN the house (No.8 or 10).The exterior filmed street scenes are very good.
I think the answer to your question would be both. Some filming in the house some in a studio. The thing is that that kind of a house is simply too small and pokey to light properly and too small to fit a crew and a big camera in. So what you would find is that the stuff in the hallway and on the stairs would have been done in the house, as would scenes where there was a window looking out (like the kitchen scene at the end) but that the close-quarters stuff in rooms with two of more actors would have been done in the studio simply because doing them on site would have almost impossible and certainly far too time consuming.
Ok, you all seem quite convinced it was filmed in Rillington place before it was demolished. But how come, in 1961, Ludovic Kennedy states that Rillington place was demolished years ago on the first page of his book?
It seems amazing to me that he could make such a basic factual error in the third paragraph of a book that he was hoping to be taken so gravely seriously?
How could he have been so wrong?
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I lived in Harlesden,which is a couple of miles away,when the movie came out i went to see Rillington Place out of curiosity then called Rushton Mews the house was still there but boarded up. It was an awkward place to see without drawing attention to yourself as it was the last house of a dead-end Street and there were kids playing in the Street so i didn't hang around for long i remember it as a very poor area.
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Ludovic Kennedy was incorrect.
I used to live in Oxford Gardens which is two streets north of Rillington Place. As someone else has stated the actual house was on the bottomn left hand side of the Place.
It was very run down.
In the 70's Rillington Place was pulled down to make way for a new development. A completely new road was built to the right of the old, nearer to the tube line, where the old houses used to be. If you wish to know where the old road was then look across the road and you will see its extension. The actual location of the house could be said to be part of a new house and part of a garden.
I think I can help with your query JohnnyMorrissey. Ludovic Kennedy's book was originally published in 1961 but has been reprinted many times since, you probably have a copy that was published in the 80's or 90's perhaps, long after the street demolition.
I have a copy of the book published by Panther in 1971 to coincide with the release of the film. In chapter 1, Kennedy says that you won't find Rillington Place on a map of London now because, as a result of what happened there, it has changed its name to Ruston Close, he also mentions that Rickards Transport Depot for Coaches & Vans used to be Bartlett's Iron Foundry and that the foundry chimney still stands.
The Rillington Place street scenes in the film were shot around April or May 1970. There were people still living there then although, at the time, they were slowly being rehoused prior to demolition.
Ruston Close was demolished in 1971 and the remains of the street became a temporary parking area for lorries for a few years, before the whole area, including Rickards Depot and the foundry chimney, was pulled down to make way for the St Andrews Square & Bartle Road developments.
Dickie Attenborough probably meant that they used No6, 'salmon...' is probably the most correct post on the subject. And I have an old Ordnance Survey map of 1914, which marks 'Rillington Place'. Now Bartle Road, W10. The 'garden' next to number 9, is NOT the original site. According to this map, when overlaying it in today's scale, (don't forget houses were on the north side, meaning the standing new houses are 'forward', or centred in the street as it is now, as there are NO houses now on the north side - see Google Earth). The house would be about at the back of the square, where there's a small parking area for about two-three cars and a black gate. The Ordnance Survey map shows a gap which would or was later to be the Bartle Ironworks, presumably the road now takes it name from that, though the index on the Ordnance Survey map mentions interestingly a couple of people named 'Bartle' living in the area - could be the Ironwork's proprietors maybe. At the time of the murders, 'Rickards' the removal people had the back area, that backed onto number 10. Check out the British Pathe website for footage of Rillington Place being demolished in approx 1971 (there is no sound) - it's also on YouTube.
The mostly original locations that both Christie and Evans used that lie in the area are, the Kensington Park (Hotel) pub, (Evans watering hole, where he's going on about the women he picks up in the film). This is on the corner of Ladbroke Grove and Lancaster Road. More a stone's 'toss' than a throw from the Bartle Road location. And just up a bit on the 'Grove, The Elgin, where Christie drunk (and probably picked up a few of the 'prostitutes' he murdered). Nearly opposite Notting Hill Gate tube station,stands the flamboyant 'The Coronet' cinema where Christie was an usher. I also have info on where Beryl Evans and Timothy Evans are buried, but I think that's going a bit far here.
Slightly off topic, but if anyone is interested in the general redevelopment of London around the time the film was made,then search for "The London Nobody Knows"(1967) on Youtube.Its a documentary that gives a real sense of old London.
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Beryl and Geraldine Evans are buried in Gunnersbury Cemetery in London. I'm not sure about Tim.
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I looked it up on findagrave.com, which is a very reputable site. I have researched many gravesites that are close to me, and then visited them, and they were all where the site said they were. The site shows you photos of the grave, including tombstone, sometimes even tells you exactly where, including plot number, the grave is.
shareLastmidnite - Tim is buried in St. Patrick's Roman Catholic/church/cemetery in Leytonstone, london, E11. - and yes, I've seen his grave/stone. 'GuilfordGhost' on YouTube has a vid of it.
shareI lived in Willesden and remember hearing at the time that it was actually filmed on the same road in Ladbroke Grove (about 3 miles from where I was at the time). I always thought it was very eerie. And wondered how the cast and crew had the nerve and fearlessness to film there.
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They wouldn't do that nowadays, wouldn't be politically correct.
shareYeah apart from the studio for the interiors, they used No.6 for the exteriors in Rillington Place (Ruston Close, now Bartle Road).
shareyou've all given fabulous information, i'll put it to use when i cross the pond on a visit.
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http://curnow.webplus.net/index.html
superb site with photos of location now, gos into immense detail...last word on the subject perhaps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh8HTuy8z-U&feature=related
thats a mute piece of newsreel on youtube from the pathe library showing the demolition of the street, shame sounds been lost over the years.
It was 6 Rillington Place, I think......was the residence of a Mr & Mrs Swan.
shareThis website has a very detailed explanation of what is now where 10 Rillington Place was then:
http://www.10-rillington-place.co.uk/index.html