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i realize Mike was married to Gloria but


since he was receiving free room and board including Ediths home cooked meals shouldn't he have let Archie rant? He wasn't contributing anything financial correct?

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In Mike's defense, Archie did prod him at every opportunity.

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Gloria was working at Creslers in season 3. I wonder why she didn't pay rent at that point? 


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She was too busy supporting her husband. Lol.

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true and Mike was tutoring

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He sure was "tootin" Linda Galloway, according to Archie.

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lol!

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They both also thought they were right.

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true As Metallica says nothing else matters!

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I don't think anyone has to put up with having a slur about their nationality hurled at them. Whether they're paying rent or not.



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nah He could blow it off Consider the source.

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Mike knew what he was getting into when he moved in, but it was rent-free.

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exactly

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It was mentioned several times through out the show that Gloria paid for everything while she worked part time. Especially when her and Mike or Archice would get into a fight.

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She not Her. And it's Archie.

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What is this English, class? Lol.

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No it's Hawaiian class. Hau'oli Makahiki Hou from my people to you! And you don't need the comma after the word "English".

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So, if my daughter married a white man and they were living with me and I kept calling him the "H" word, he should just ignore it?



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??? Do you mean haole??

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The thing was - Archie degraded Mike the first time they met. It was Mike's decision to move in anyway. The same with the Willises on The Jeffersons. George kept calling Tom a h____ but they kept coming back. Mike took the free ride, knowing what he was going to have to put up with.

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Calling him "Meathead" was one thing, "pol_ck", like I said, regardless of the living arrangement, is beyond the pale.



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One of the points of the show was to show how ignorant Archie was. Norman Lear was surprised with how people took to him.

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Hilariously?

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Yah. Lear figured everybody would see him in a bad light. That was his intention.

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Too bad he was awesome.

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Carroll O'Connor certainly worked hard on the character - off-screen and on.

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It showed. He was brilliant.

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And often clashed with Lear over the character, the production, everything.

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You'd never know it though, by watching it.

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There's actors that would like to slice each other's throats, but you wouldn't know it by their performance. They're just doing their job.

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George Peppard and Mr. T for one. Peppard and T didn't get along too well the last couple years of the A-team.

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Don't tell me Peppard was a KKK member.

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No. He was jealous of T's success. Peppard thought he was the bigger star, and got paid less than T, and took umbrage with that. Didn't make public appearances with the other three and everything.

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Wow, that's not right - making less than Mr. T? I'm surprised he took the job.

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Well, I don't know if it was right off the bat less. But, obviously, Mr. T was the break out star and everything. Had his own cartoon, and cereal and everything, so maybe after 2 or 3 years he was getting more, then Peppard was getting jealous. Plus, T was coming off the blockbuster success of Rocky III, which is how he got the A-team job.

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Well, I figured Rocky 3's popularity was why T was hired. He was the first one hired for the show. Peppard was hired as the real star and played the lead character. In many episodes BA is just a background character.

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Even so, the kids loved T, and couldn't care less about Peppard. Even the other two. Though, Benedict and Schultz didn't care. They realized they're spot and acquiesced to the idea of T being the huge star. Peppard couldn't handle that this newcomer with no formal training was bigger than a trained actor such as himself.

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Hannibal was the most important character, followed by Face, then I'd say a tie between Murdock and BA.
Popularity-wise it might've been in a different order, but I'd have to say Hannibal's the better character.

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Regardless, it's a popularity contest, not who is the more integral character. T was more popular, which is why, he was paid more and why Peppard was jealous.

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I can sympathize with Peppard.
BA wasn't even that relevant in a lot of episodes.

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Aha. But, he was the reason kids were tuning in. Not to see a has been movie star.

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It's hard for me to recall. I know my brothers watched it, but I didn't think it was a Mr. T thing. I was almost never home and only watched TV in the afternoon right after I came home from work. Then I was right out again.

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It was. They had Mr. T dolls, and cartoon and everything. They didn't have a Hannibal or Face doll. Action figures, sure.

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I'm not even sure if I knew who Mr. T was, when the show came out. I saw Rocky III when it was in theaters, but he was an unknown to me at that time, and I probably wasn't even aware it was the same dude on The A-Team:

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Oh, Yeah. There was a lot of big black guys with mohawks back then. How would you not know it was the same guy?

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I think it was during the '90s when I saw Rocky III on TV and then realized Mr. T was the movie's antagonist. No, I didn't recognize him at all as having been on Rocky when I saw The A-Team's opening credits during the original run.

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You are a weird wolf.

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Rocky IV was the first one I didn't see when it came out and had to wait over a decade before it came on a movie channel that we had.

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Was it worth the wait?

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It was good, but the wait was my choice. I refused to watch it on commercial TV.

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Well, as long as it was worth it.

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I don't remember a great deal about it, actually. I do recall that the blond bitch from Beverly Hills Cop II was on it. And that the Russian dude was almost unstoppable. Dolph Lundgren, was it?

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Yes. Brigitte Nielsen How can you forget certain things about a movie, even if you've only seen it once and it was years ago? Granted, I don't remember every line and detail of things I've only seen once, but I remember who was in it at least.

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I only remember the actor because I saw his later movies before I saw Rocky IV. That's why I didn't remember Mr. T in Rocky III - I'd never seen him before.

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What later movies? Lol.

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Lundgren? When I had movie channels I watched all those action movies (among other things of course) - Steven Sagal movies, all those things.

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Seagal is awful. Not a fan.

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I didn't watch them for the acting. It was the action and mindless violence.

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He's not even good at action. And he's a horrible actor.

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Well, they made the movies interesting to watch, anyway.

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Who made the movies interesting?

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The production team/ the director...

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Oh. Certainly not Segal. Bleech!

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He never bothered me, but I didn't watch those movies for him. It was mindless action. Like a poor man's "Commando".

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Commando is a fantastic movie. Segal couldn't sniff Schwarzenegger's jock strap.

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I saw Commando at the movies. Probably the only Arnold movie I went to see that wasn't sci-Fi/fantasy.

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You could hardly touch Schwarzenegger in the 80's. The Terminator, Commando, The Running Man, Predator, Twins. All excellent.

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For some reason I never saw Predator or Running Man at the movies.
Both Conans, the first two Terminators and Commando are his only movies I saw in theaters.

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I only saw Jingle All the Way of his movies in the theaters. And the three Expendables, but that's not just an Arnold movie. Everyone is in those.

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I have the Conans, all Terminators, Predator, and The Running Man on disc. I also have Eraser on VHS. The rest of his stuff I've only seen on movie channels. Actually, I'm not even sure if I saw Jingle All the Way. Or the Expendables.

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I don't overly care for the Conan's. Everything else is excellent though. Eraser wasn't too bad. I have the Terminators, Predator, The Running Man, And the first Expendables on DVD, and Batman and Robin and True Lies on VHS.

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I saw both Conans at the movies, so I have a rapport with them. The second one is sillier, but more humorous.

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Well, Olivia D'Abo is in the second one, and she's sexy as hell, so there's that.

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Yes she was.
Grace Jones was pretty humorous. That tail on her costume was a scream.

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Olivia D'Abo is still pretty hot. She's been in L&O in Criminal Intent in more recent years. Yum.

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I've never sat through a whole episode of that. Not that I think the show's horrible or anything, but it's a little too "plain" for my taste.

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Explain "plain".

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I like comedies, but any kind of drama has to have something else to it. Like sci-Fi or something.

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I see. Like Star trek TNG or Rockford?

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Well, Rockford was a little different. Offbeat character with comedic twists. I like Columbo also.
But pure dramas I don't really get into. As much as I like seeing O'Connor in things, I only saw In the Heat of the Night a couple of times. He starred in a very well-promoted TV movie back in the late '70s called "The Last Hurrah". I sat through it once, but I couldn't do it again. (Off-topic, but even "The Breakfast Club" I found over-rated. I saw it once on a movie channel and that's enough for me).

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Speaking as a Brit/Limey - why? I don't get uptight about those comments from Yanks Micks et al.

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