No Patton, no 1970 film in the Top 250 - Patton (1970) Discussion

[–] kustom135 13 years ago

It's because IMDb users are 75% under age 30 and 75% male.

Check out where 'Fight Club' hovers.

The Top 250 here is a skewed 250.

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[–] gittes98 12 years ago

Not even MASH. Or maybe that could be listed under 1969 (although released early in 1970)

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[–] sstarl1324 12 years ago

You got that right. I can't believe the garbage on that list. All the fantasy crap. Batman and other comic book junk? Those aren't quality movies. They're just special effect and computer "generated graphics" money makers.

Remember Rabbit Ears with tin foil?

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[–] chris-fortner 12 years ago

The problem with today's younger generations is they act and think like the Earth didn't even exist until 1980. I attribute mostly to a dumbing down effect coming from today's movies, TV, instant gratification, the culture in general. I have been writing a good bit about this trend and how it relates to my grandparents generation. Feel free to check it out. http://chrisforliberty.wordpress.com/

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[–] jtrichey13 12 years ago

Perhaps someone that is 20 years old hasn't has a chance to sit down with old classics yet?

Downwards is the only way forwards.

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[–] davebesag 11 years ago

I appreciate that this is a late reply. However, it's possible to like the 'fantasy crap' and like Patton. It's not mutually exclusive and you're allowed to like more than one type of film.

Anyway, Patton's rated 8.0 so only just outside the top 250 and it has been in that list in the past.

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[–] bartblommaert 12 years ago

Fight Club is excellent

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[–] pgharett-676-553123 10 years ago

If the 75% male is true, it's not an explanation for Patton not being in the Top 250. A movie like that should be right up their alley.

Someone on the IMDB boards had a good quote: "If you're favorite movie came out after you were born, you haven't watched enough movies."

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[–] thomaswilliamboner 10 years ago

I like that lol. I agree.

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[–] ktowny 9 years ago

"If you're favorite movie came out after you were born, you haven't watched enough movies."

This might be true if you are youngish. But for us old farts.. Godfather came out after I was born and if not my favorite, its right up there.

"Loves turned to lust and bloods turned to dust in my heart"

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[–] BuddyLove63 12 years ago

1970.

Kelly's Heroes is a far better and more enjoyable film than Patton.

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[–] MadTom 12 years ago

1970.

Kelly's Heroes is a far better and more enjoyable film than Patton.

Funny you should say that. I went through the Army Armor Officer Basic Course at Fort Knox in the 1980s. At the start of the tactics phase, to get everyone psyched up for it, the instructor took a big-screen TV and showed the opening speech from Patton. But instead of following it up with battle scenes from that movie, he followed it with the segment in Kelly's Heroes where Oddball's three Sherman tanks shoot up the German railroad yard.

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[–] sstarl1324 12 years ago

I like Kelly's Heroes. But it was a fiction movie. A bio or non-fiction story has to be pretty good to match up with a fiction one. Kelly's was made in the same era kinda, but had that anti-war/anti Viet Nam thing underlying it like MASH did. Great cast in it too.

Speaking of which, I just saw "The Great Escape" (1963)for the first time in years yesterday on AMC. Talk about a great non-fiction movie! Powerful story, great cast and acting. That is another thing about movies like Patton, Kelly's, Midway, TGE, etc. Those ensemble casts made up of top billing actors all in the same pic. You don't see that too often today. the Oceans movies, which are pretty good take-offs of the Rat Pack version, and the Expendables, fun to watch, but not real classic stuff. Those WWII movies made while the memories were still fresh, they were the best.

Remember Rabbit Ears with tin foil?

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[–] LubyleFou 11 years ago

This film should definitely be in the top 250(it has great acting,great cinematography,editing,score,you name it...)Films like The Wild Bunch for instance and a few others should also be in the top...it always strikes me to see movies such as The Shawshank Redemption(which is a 7 at best)with such high ratings,and classics like this film not even making the top 250...

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[–] jvdesuit1 10 years ago

Those polls have no relevance whatsoever. For instance to rate as best picture for 1971 "The French connection", shows a total proof of lack of culture when the same year Visconti showed on screens his masterpiece and probably the best movie of that year : Death in Venice which won the 25th anniversary prize of Cannes Festival . Cannes festival prizes are much more relevant than the Academy awards Oscars as culture and in depth of movie making are concerned. At least the jury is international and not strictly related to the movie industry people.

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[–] SamoanJoes 10 years ago

It's a great movie, an 8/10, but I don't feel this is one of the 250 best movies of all time.

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[–] seahawk3133 10 years ago

The problem is - - intelligent people don't automatically rank every movie they like as a 10 and every movie they don't like a 1....

The new stuff now days gets flooded with 10's because of the lack of intelligence to differ a good movie being a 7 or a great movie being a 9.

I liked Patton - didn't love it even though Scott's performance is possibly one of the 10 best ever. I gave at a 7, as that's where I rank a close to a very good movie

Overall, I feel 1970 movies are weak & certain ones are over rated...The best two I've seen were MASH & Bed and Board which I would rank each as an 8.

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[–] alexferguson86 10 years ago

Best film from 1970 I've seen is The Conformist. That's close to being in the Top 250 and it really does belong there, in my opinion.

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[–] FrankBooth_DeLarge 8 years ago

Patton was regularly in the top 250 for a while, especially when I first started using this site in 2004. In time, it's rating has only gone down by a point or two, while newer and more immediately popular movies have higher ratings for the time being, which is the main reason it is no longer on the list. Time will tell which currently popular films remain as popular or relevant as Patton has for 46 years.

For me, Patton is one of my favorite movies, along with Fight Club which is also excellent.

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[–] partydjz (424) 8 years ago

That list is laughable, every Star Wars movie is in the top 20, list must be made by 12 year olds, they skipped so many classics it's ridiculous. Patton is #1 on my list, once you get to the top 10 it's basically a matter of personal preference.

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[–] christomacin (4655) 5 years ago

1966 through 1979 or so are some of the strongest years in the history of cinema. 1968 was probably one of the greatest single years in the history of cinema. 1970 was a solid year for movies, but it was relatively speaking the Ugly Duckling compared to, say, 1968, 1969, 1971, or 1972, which had a lot more iconic films than '70. I was born in 1970, so I have a soft spot for that year...but facts are facts. Not sure what the reason for that is.

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