The cohn bros have always done excellent work in my opinion, and I actually looked forward to their TRUE GRIT movie. I grew up enjoy the original TRUE GRIT, with John Wayne, and continue to watch it about once a month, still.
I was quite suprised in my disappointment with the new movie. Not sure what they we're going for. Different from the movie, similar to the book?
Jeff Bridges was very good, however I felt the other actors didn't play very good roles. Just not good scripes from the cohn bros.
Just re-watched both versions. What strikes me is to how high a degree the 60s version is just that: a 60s version. When you look at clothes hair and clean-shaven faces, most extras and even actors look like they just wandered off an episode of Bonanza. Whereas with the new versions, everyone looks like they wandered right out of an old photo album from that period.
The original was good for its time, and Wayne expectional, but he is the only thing that is not outclassed by the Coen version. And lo and behold, Robert Duvall was beaten soundly by Barry Pepper.
I haven't seen the original yet but I really liked the remake. After reading your comments I feel I should watch the original soon so I don't miss out.
I saw the original before seeing the remake...not a fan of John Wayne so I guess im kinda bias. Its hard to get into these old westerns. They way hollywood was back then was way way to clean. Theres no grit IMO its more just cheesy to me then anything. I cant enjoy a movie if im brought right out of it. I know its old but some old movies work but these arent westerns, just plays with with nice make up.
I like my westerns TRULY Gritty. John Wayne is to silly to play the type of character he did. Was more a joke to me then anything id ever take seriously.
Classics dont always stand the test of time, I can say that with music, games and movies. Theres tons of games id never play again cause they were made in such an early age that there just jokes. (im talking when they started using 3d, like N64 and PS1) 2D is always awesome.
The only reason I can think that someone would like the original version more is out of nostalgia or a love of anything John Wayne.
The original had so many glaring issues:
1. The Mattie character was so far off from what Portis created in the novel. That was the selling point of the book. She's the main character, the narrator and her "voice" is what made the book. The original movie seems more a John Wayne vehicle with a 14 year old girl along for the ride. Plus, Kim Darby was just all wrong for the part. She was too old and seemed like a princess more than the tough character from the book. She delivered the sweet lines well like when she asks if Rooster and LeBoeuf want to hear the story of the midnight caller. But when she has to deliver the lines that are stern, like when negotiating with Stonehill, she is totally unbelievable.
2. Glen Campbell was just awful, nearly ruined every scene he was in.
3. John Wayne was way too hammy, never really seemed that drunk/belligerent. This is probably more due to when the movie was made. The 60's westerns were a little softer than more modern ones. I never saw Wayne as Rooster, I just kept thinking, "hey, there's John Wayne". (Which is a problem with a lot of his movies.) John Wayne is awesome and all and had a ton of charisma but he kind of played the same character in most of his movies. But that's what audiences wanted and expected of him.
4. For most of the movie, I felt that the actors were not acting but merely reading their next line. The deliveries were so flat it was hard to watch at times.
5. The original was too long, it dragged at parts. I know they included more of the dialogue from the book but they lost so much of the book's character and theme that the trade off was not worth it. Which brings me to...
6. The ending in the original was SO cheesy and awful. Again, more typical of a 60s Western. But when you watch it now it seems so bad. And was very far off from the book's ending and more egregiously was a huge departure from the tone and theme of the book.
Not to mention the new version was just technically better. Better sound, camera work, cinematography, lighting, etc. The scene in the original movie where Rooster charges Ned and the 3 others on horseback was laughably bad. But I suppose 40 years of improvements to movie making give the Coens an unfair advantage there. Still, there are other movies from this era that were shot much better.
Again, if you're just huge fan of The Duke or saw the original many times and have fond memories of it you may prefer that version but to me it's no contest. Especially when you have the book to compare them to. The original movie didn't capture the tone or theme of the book at all.
I enjoyed both, but I agree with a lot of your post. The original took the book had revenge as a prominent theme, but not in a glorifying way where Rooster Cogburn's style of "justice" brings peace and closure. It consumes Mattie and ultimately destroys her, even if she yet lives. I can see John Wayne wanting to turn the book into a fun romp through the Wild West where he helps a girl get her revenge and then rides away to have more adventures, but it does change from the book considerably.
Again, I enjoy both versions, but for different reasons. I didn't mind Glen Campbell or Kim Darby (although it would've been interesting to see Karen Carpenter in the role), and I liked the slower pace. I don't like it when a story feels like it's whizzing by, so older films are better paced in my opinion. However, the newer version is slightly better.
EVERYTHING in the Coens´ film is better than in this 1969 number which is heavily sanitized, poorly acted and generally sort of dumbed down. And don´t even start me about the presence of that repellent Darby chick who can really drive a man to murder with her performance that surely must rank as the most annoying in the history of motion pictures. And Bridges makes for a much more interesting Rooster than Wayne who, as usual, has little besides grandstanding to offer.
The Coens Film also has characters that are emotionally distant and unrelatable. Bridges was frankly uninteresting while doing his Big Lebowski routine while taking with a bag of marbles in his mouth. The Girl who played Mattie in the New Version was horrible. I have not seen bad acting like that since Fred Savage in the wizard. The only thing that was better was Matt Damon as LaBoeuf. Frankly the new version was like watching the original. But with duller characters. That frankly I didn't give a rats ass about. Just because something is old doesn't make it Bad. Neither is something new always good.
Oh you're so bitter because your idol is being forgotten way more often these days...
Wayne wasn't half as good of an actor as Bridges is. It's time people stop admiring the persona, put back their purist conservative views into their pockets and actually pay attention to acting and the film itself.
True Grit (2010) -- which is NOT a remake but a novel adaptation -- was also a better movie than 1969 version. You'll just have to get over this somehow.
How is it not a remake. It has most of the same dialog and the exact same scenes. Yeah its a Novel Adaptation of the exact same god damn book. 2010 version is a pretty soulless film that has none of the human emotion that the 1969 had. Mattie was a 1D Terminator Wannabe. Explain to me why Mattie would want Rooster buried next to her in the new version. He treated her like sh!t in that movie. Hell it was Matt Damon character that treated her with any respect. At least the 1969 version gives you some reason for actions.
While it's true that John Wayne's Rooster Cogburn did treat Mattie Ross like trash in the beginning of the 1969 version of "True Grit", he did develop a lot of respect for her during the second half and at the end of the 1969 movie.
Has anyone ever seen the TV pilot of TRUE GRIT? Obviously, it never became a series. I saw about 15 minutes of it in 1978. Warren Oates played Rooster and Lisa Pelikan played Mattie. I think it picked up after the events of the movie with Rooster either coming to work for Mattie and her family or becoming Marshal of the territory they lived in (but don't hold me to a 35-year-old memory). I'd love to see the whole program again. "May I bone your kipper, Mademoiselle?"