Topaz or Exodus?


So never having read Leon Uris, yet having grown up seeing his large paperbacks in every library and shop, I wonder which of these large films based on his novels do imdb posters enjoy more? I've seen both films. The direction is very different (Preminger v. Hitchcock), and many posters may base their opinions on whether they are a bigger fan of AH or OP. On the other hand, the 2 stories (Cold War espionage v. Post-WWII founding of Israel) might lead people who prefer one story over the other. But both are sprawling epics filmed in several countries with large casts, running well over the normal movie format, with great scores. Both fall under that peculiar genre of fiction from the middle of the 20th century in which a single topic (Hawaii, hotels, airports, the space race, the birth of a nation, etc) is expanded in a huge novel with a cast of thousands, a bit of preachiness, and a lot of colorful detail. 'Good' people are depicted as liking hard liquor, being open to the possibilities of marital infidelity, extremely patriotic, cheerfully confident in the promises of science, doubtful of strong ideologies and faiths, and brazenly accepting what life offers with a strong jaw and a pragmatic faith in the future. 'Bad' people are shown as willing to do anything for a buck, afraid in the wrong situations, rash in others, and committed to ideas without any ability to compromise or adjust their beliefs. Its a very interesting genre, one that has pretty much disappeared from the novel market and the film world. Here, we happen to have 2 representatives of one writer's work by very different, very strong directors. Which do you prefer? And why?

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I prefer "Topaz," but that's largely because I am a Hitchcock fan. However, I have a great regard for Otto Preminger's "large canvas" period of 1959 -1967(Anatomy of a Murder, Exodus, Advise and Consent, The Cardinal, In Harm's Way, Hurry, Sundown) for their sweep and their even-handed treatment of controversial material, even for their "soap operetic touches."

Confession: I've never seen "The Cardinal" or "Hurry, Sundown," but from what I've read and what I remember, they definitely are of Preminger's "epic" period, and I probably would have liked them despite what I understand to be some horribly dated racial/sexual material in "Sundown"(but hey, Jane Fonda and Michael Caine...its gotta be interesting.)

"Anatomy of Murder" may not seem like an epic, but in its "small-town Americana way," it had quite the wide array of actors and characters: James Stewart, Lee Remick, Ben Gazzara, Eve Arden, Arthur O'Connell, and a new and stunning George C. Scott. Plus the lawyer from the McCarthy hearing.)

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"Topaz" likely was conceived as a novel Hitchcock WOULD NOT have filmed. By its very globe-trotting, sprawling, rather plotty nature, "Topaz" should have been a Preminger film, and likely with this kind of all-star cast:

Andre Yves Montand
Nicole: Catherine Denueve
Dubois: Sidney Poitier
Rico Parra: Burt Lancaster
Nordstrom: William Holden
"And Elizabeth Taylor as Juanita De Cordoba."

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Hitchcock didn't make THAT kind of film, and though he did try to get Denueve for Nicole, ultimately he went with a low-star wattage cast(Michel Piccoli and Phillipe Noiret, however, came with international film credentials.)

Hitchcock shaped "Topaz" to HIS purposes. He was interested not so much in the wide sweep of action as he was in his trademark close-up heavy set-pieces: the defector's daughter dropping the statue; Rico Parra's huge meaty hand on a doorknob right before he kicks it in to reveal DuBois and Uribe taking photos like pornographers; and of course the wonderful "death blooms" murder of a Cuban spy.

I'm a little too young to remember "Exodus" in book stores, but I do remember big displays for "Topaz" in books stores and "book departments of department stores." I was fulling expecting "Topaz" to become one of those "coffee table book epic movies" and I was stunned to learn of Hitchcock buying it for films.(Evidently so was Leon Uris, who was contractually required to get to write a first draft of the screenplay, and felt Hitchcock was all wrong for it. Hitchcock never used the Uris draft.)

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"Exodus" had a bigger budget than "Topaz," I'll bet(once inflation of 1960 versus 1969 dollars was made), and an all-star cast (Paul Newman and Eva Marie Saint AND Sal Mineo AND Lee J. Cobb AND Peter Lawford and on and on.)

Though Hitchocck did some on-location filming for "Topaz" in Copenhagen and Paris, a lot of the film has a "Universal backlot" feeling, and the Northern California coast filled in for Cuba exteriors.

"Exodus" had that required "superepic location filming" sweep to it -- the way a movie like that is "supposed" to be made.

"Exodus" merited Oscar nominations (the score, song and Sal Mineo at least, as I recall) and was given serious consideration by the Academy.

One hook that "Exodus" had in Hollywood that "Topaz" did not was the fact that "Exodus" was about the birth of Israel, which was, lets face it, an enormously important topic among a Hollywood set that had a large Jewish community. So, there, too "Exodus" was seen as more important than "Topaz."

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Put it all together and I would say that "Exodus" is a better film -- certainly a more starry and richly mounted one -- than "Topaz."

But "Topaz" gives us the rather impish delight of seeing Alfred Hitchcock given one of those "important modern epics" to film and gleefully turning it into a starless series of intense suspense set pieces.

Plus just ENOUGH "import" (all those intelligent meetings of intelligence personnel in a Virginia safe house and at NATO) to suggest that Hitchcock, too, was playing in a somewhat more high falutin' arena than he was used to.

Of Preminger's films, my favorites are in this order:

Anatomy of a Murder
Advise and Consent
In Harm's Way

A black-and-white trilogy of all-star tales about the "American way of power" in the courts, in Congress, and in war.

"Laura" is a nice noir, but I prefer Otto in his "big picture mode" of the 50's/60's.

And yes, I know that the ladies in "Harm's Way" where 1965 dresses and hairstyles during WWII, and that the thing is laden with sexy soap. But John Wayne and Kirk Douglas capture the cameraderie of different men at war with great style, the Wayne/Patricia Neal romance is mature yet sexual, and all those other players, from Burgess Meredith to Patrick O'Neal to Slim Pickens to Carroll O'Connor, are memorable.

P.S. Hitchcock made one comment on "Exodus," but not one you'd expect. Eva Marie Saint appeared in "North by Northwest" in 1959 and "Exodus" the next year.
Hitchcock told an interviewer. "Poor Eva Marie Saint. I go to all that trouble to make her sexy and glamourous for my movie, and there she is one year later in 'Exodus,' back to looking like a waif.'"

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Thanks for the AH interview quotation on "Exodus" - funny. And your imagined cast for a Preminger "Topaz" is good - how about Anthony Quinn for Rico Parra?
I think you have good points on why E would win out over T, and as you're the Hitch buff, your reasoned argument works for me. Well done, case closed unless I hear from others!

By the way, you really should watch "Cardinal" - I found it used and thought *hey, it's cheap; can't be all that bad*. I was really happy to see such a wide-ranging treatment of clergy careers, and some of the direction and cinematography - reminiscent of "Advise/Consent" with its sweeping views of grandiose architecture showing us humans in their largest-imagined roles - is astounding.

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Hey, thanks.

Anthony Quinn makes a lot of sense for Rico Parra. And honestly, had any other mainstream director made "Topaz," I'm pretty sure the movie would have had that kind of cast.

I'll track down "The Cardinal" eventually. I believe John Huston is in it in an early acting role. Funny. Welles acted for Huston(Moby Dick.) Huston acted for Preminger. Preminger acted for Billy Wilder (in "Stalag 13.")

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In my lifetime, I've probably READ about more movies than I've ever seen. From what I've read (and I've never seen it) I believe that "Hurry, Sundown" -- despite a fine mixed-racial cast -- really hurt Preminger. It had a reputation for bad racial melodrama and, evidently, some really hilarious sexual analogies(Jane Fonda playing Michael Caine's saxophone, anyone?)

But there was a "sequel": some brief shots of young Michael Caine looking at an exploding car in "Hurry, Sundown" were used as "a childhood flashback" when Old Michael Caine played Mike Myers' dad in "Austin Powers in Goldmember."

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what are some of you favorite texts (books, interviews, etc.) about film? i'd like to read more - i watch a lot, and read some academic stuff, and occasionally reviews... and interviews... but i'd like to read some good stuff if you've got recommendations. i'm interested in most genres and most decades, so no worries if it's older stuff or foreign or what have you... just curious.

thanks!

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Well, when I mentioned that I've read more about movies than seen them, I generally mean movie REVIEWS, which I've been reading in the papers and magazines since I was a kid.

Still, a number of books have caught my fancy over the years. Many of them are out of print(hah) but some aren't:

Robin Wood's "Hitchcock's Films" is the seminal work on Hitchcock's key films, but I recommend the 1970 version. Wood kept re-writing the book and piling on re-write of old ideas and personal revelations until it got incoherent. Find a copy of the 1970 version, which starts with "Strangers on a Train" and ends with "Torn Curtain," and only covers the major films in between.

Peter Bogdanovich's "Who the Devil Made It?" features good interviews with Hitchocck AND Preminger. There was another great book with interviews with those two(collected from various sources) that came out in'69 or '70. Probably out of print now.

I like all of David Thomson's writing and all of Pauline Kael's writing. I agree with him more than with her. Thomson's recent "The Whole Equation" is a nice Cook's Tour of cinema.

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The best book I've read written BY a director is "A Siegel Film" by the late director Don Siegel. He was Clint Eastwood's "house director" for four films(Coogan's Bluff, Two Mules for Sister Sara, The Beguiled, and climactically, Dirty Harry, plus "Escape From Alcatraz' much later) but he worked with almost every other male action star of the era: John Wayne, Steve McQueen, Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, James Coburn, Burt Reynolds, Michael Caine, and Walter Matthau(yes, Walter Matthau.)

Oh, and Siegel made "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," too.

His ego shows in the book -- he hates stupid producers and stupid screenwriters(he re-writes them) and he simply fires stupid crew members-- but he made some great films, and his book tells you how.

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Peter Biskind's "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls" is a nice book on the seventies New Hollywood, a buncha guys and gals who threw Old Hollywood out and made countercultural films...and who were then thrown out by TV-trained moguls.

"Movie Love in the Fifties" is a fine book on fifties into sixties cinema(plenty on "Vertigo" and "Psycho")

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Movies at a Revolution is a good recent book about the five Best Picture nominees of 1967: Bonnie and Clyde, The Graduate, Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, Dr. Doolitte, and the winner, In the Heat of the Night. The five movies are studied in detail and a changing of the guard is noted.

At the 1968 ceremony at which those five films were up for the Oscar, Alfred Hitchcock was awarded the Irving Thalberg award. He famously came out, grabbed it, said only "Thank You" and left.

He knew the times they were a changin.'




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thanks for these recommendations! i really like siegel and bogdanovich - both their movies and the things they have to say (thanks to dvd special features, interviews, etc.), so i'll have to check the books out. pauline kael is fun to read. like you, i read more reviews (new yorker, etc.) than books about movies. however, you've just given me a great list of places to start.

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You're welcome, and have a good time with them.

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