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Topaz: 1962 through a 1969 Lens


One of the little-remarked-upon eccentricities about "Topaz" is that it is a period piece of sorts: it takes place in the past.

The irony: that past, in December of 1969, was only a little over 7 years (back to the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962)...but it might as well have been 7 DECADES.

Here's why: after 1962 concluded and the world moved on from the Cuban Missile Crisis, truly massive changes occurred: JFK blown away, the Beatles, the expansion of the Vietnam war and the rising up of protests against it, the counterculture, and in the climactic year of 1968: two more major assassinations (King and RFK), and riots both racial (after King's killing) and political (at the Chicago Democratic convention.)

Also during this time, male fashion and hair changed massively: hippies inaugurated long hair, other men grew it at least "longer," (shaggy with sideburns if they could), ties and lapels got wider.

And here came Alfred Hitchcock with this movie in which the men had close-cropped hair and thin ties and perfect dark suits and the cars looked big and boxy.

Hitchcock had actually done very well in recreating the artifacts and fashion of a time just far enough in the past to be "lost" and yet just close enough for people to remember it.

Still, "Topaz" is an oddity: a hippie-age movie about the button-down early sixties.

I'm willing to bet that some people watching "Topaz" today think it was MADE in 1962, that's how perfect the period detail is.

Put another way: "Topaz" is set only two years after "Psycho," though released nine years later.

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That's an interesting thought...
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This is a far too sweeping generalization of 1969. Yes a lot of society were swept up by the "hippie" generation, but most were not. Just look out at most films from the era (part. the 007 films) to see that a movement fnat is far-reaching does not negate how most people were acting.



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I take that point. Having lived through 1969, I recall thinking that all the footage on TV news of hippies, as well as the "hippie specific" movies such as "Easy Rider" and Otto Preminger's "Skidoo," did not fully match the reality of how business people and political figures still looked and comported themselves. Lots of short-haired men and teenagers were all around me, some with crewcuts. (Though after awhile, in the early seventies, even Richard Nixon grew sideburns and wore a suit with wide lapels and a wide tie.)

Still, 1969 WAS massively different than 1962; the counterculture WAS there, and in the movie criticism field, Topaz was considered terribly old-fashioned-looking in the year of "Z" and "Midnight Cowboy."

I remember that on the radio during the week I saw "Topaz" was the song with the lyric "Come upon people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another right now."

Now, THAT was a hippie song.

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Oddly enough, the fashions, hair styles, and interiors are in style today in 2012. This movie and any of the actors in it would the the height of style today.

At least there will be plenty implied.

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Yes, that's one reason I enjoy the film: the sets are gorgeous, extremely well-done; and yes, the ladies' fashions are marvelous; especially Dany Robin, she has a nice wardrobe that any woman today would envy; the same for Madmoiselle Jade; and the suits look great too, but guys are always in suits . . .

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haha, yup, exactly. I find this to be one of my favorite Hitchcock films for exactly those reasons. Truly gorgeous to watch.

At least there will be plenty implied.

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I found myself repeatedly viewing it---for it's beauty!

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To get an idea of what that era was like, watch The President's Analyst, from 1967. And that movie is very relevant as a comparison to Topaz, since it also deals with the Cold War.

So yes, OP is correct. Topaz was incredibly retro for when it was made. Going from 1969 to 1962 is a much bigger jump than going from 2012 to 1980, for example.

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I believe it may be more retro than retro---only more so: the way the film is styled, it seems he used a more belligerent l950s anti-communist style . . .flags flying, pictures of the White House, the Capitol building, all-American boy John Forsythe giving up-lifting speeches on the merits of being an American---at any moment I was expecting Frank Lovejoy to show up!

There's a certain stridency that comes across, tapping into that era of the 50s and early '60s . . . possibly even late '40s, when the fight against communism really revved-up (spy scandals, Nixon, Alger Hiss, on and on) . . . Topaz seems to harken back to that era, and on---as such, one could say that yes, Topaz is out of place in the late '60s, but very much "in-place" if you placed it earlier . . .

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Yes, that's a very good point, and something that hadn't occurred to me. The movie would have been retro even if it had been made when it is set. It deals with the Cuban Missile Crisis as if the threat of Mutually Assured Destruction didn't exist. (1962 saw Ray Milland's Panic in Year Zero!, about a family trying to survive after a nuclear war that destroys Los Angeles.) And in the early sixties, Hollywood was coming to terms with the McCarthy which hunts, so that "straight" anti-communism dished out as patriotism was no longer possible. (1962 also saw The Manchurian Candidate.

So I guess that why Hitch did it this way is because he wanted to make one last thriller, and he simply wasn't able to do so using a contemporary sensibility (Americans didn't trust their government any more, in the wake of the Kennedy assassinations and the Vietnam War), so he adopted the perspective of his wartime suspense movies, with Russia substituted for Germany.

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This movie, Topaz, may very well be the last film of that strident anti-communist genre . . . regardless, Stafford is still too stiff for the role . . .

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I've had similar ideas about Frenzy, though not exactly the same. Frenzy seems to be taking place in the time it was made, but with a general retro ambience that makes it seem to be not quite the early 70s. Can't quite put my finger on it, but it seems as if London has entirely missed out on the 60s in that film.

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Topaz would "fit" better in the '50s or early '60s . . . Frenzy, perhaps early '60s? . . .

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Yeah, as a caveat, I've never been to England, and I wasn't alive for most of the 60s. But Frenzy definitely seems pre-counterculture, pre-Swinging London etc. More Petula Clark than Mick Jagger, if you get my drift.

re: Topaz, I have to say that I thought it was kinda neat that Hitchcock did a take on left-wing black radicals in Harlem(very "late 60s" topic, as far as Hollywood goes), even if the mannerisms of the scene were a little dated.

And I actually like it when a director doesn't have a complete handle on the period he's portraying, and ends up creating his own sort of mental universe. It can make for some interesting results.

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I've been away from this thread for awhile but I definitely enjoyed reading some of the opinions expressed here since.

For men at least, the clothing and hairstyles from about 1967 to about 1982 were part of a wild "sixties-seventies explosion" that seems now to have been a once-in-a-century experience.

Men in short haircuts with suits and ties are staples of
The 20's
The 30's
The 40's
The 50's
The 60's through 1966

The 80's
The 90's
The 00's
Now

But given all the "revolutionary change" of the 60's, there seems to have been this hiccup of long hair, sideburns(if you could grown them), and suits with big wide lapels and big wide ties and big wide cuffs("bell-bottoms" or "flairs") and it was so radical that it had to mean SOMETHING. (In the black male community, we saw those huge Afros that look so amusing now in movies like "Austin Powers in Goldmember.") Eventually, fashion backed away to "classic styles" -- and male hair got shorter, suits and ties got classic, etc.

As he prepared to make "Topaz," Hitchcock eschewed those styles(very much on view indeed in the very good "President's Analyst") and was able to "go back in time" to 1962, and male styles which had been in place for decades.

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With "Frenzy"(and I remember enjoying this at the time), Hitchcock finally acknowledged the sixties/seventies period: Bob Rusk and Richard Blaney both had long hair; Rusk had big sideburns and Blaney had a moustache; Rusk's suits were not "ultra-mod" seventies loud, but they WERE stylish and flared. And I loved it.

Now of course...but just barely...Rusk and Blaney in "Frenzy" look a bit too much, too seventies. (As do Bruce Dern with a huge head of Bozo-ish red hair and William Devane with long hair, moustache and flared suit in "Family Plot.")

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While "Topaz" was actually set in 1962, "Frenzy" was set in 1972 and highly criticized for how Hitchocck had somehow re-created the London of years before(if not his youth, perhaps the 30's and 40's) in the emphasis on certain Cockney phrases, a Covent Garden marketplace of worker bees, and a decided lack of notice for the politics or racial changes of the time.

I'm not so sure. "Frenzy" may have reflected "the world of Hitchcock's imagination," but we no movies with the sexual content and language of "Frenzy" in the years prior to censorship code changes in 1968..."Frenzy" is a very modern (and UGLY modern) movie to me.

The idea that "Frenzy" might make more sense in the early 60's is borne by the fact that the novel appeared in 1966 and seemed to be set a year or two earlier. Crucially, the Richard Blaney of the book(called Richard Blamey) is a 50-something veteran of WWII, not a 30-something Jon Finch being "streeeeccched" to have served in the mid-fifties Suez Canal skirmishes. "Frenzy" ends up feeling wrong in time principally(IMHO) in the castng of too-young Jon Finch in the lead(Hitchcock had first offered the role to the more age-appropriate Richard Burton.)

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Maybe if "Topaz" had been a fully realized Hitchcock classic, it would not have taken the hits it took in 1969 for casting Castro's men as the villains along with some Communist turncoats in Paris. But Hitchcock's timing was off: "revolutionary youth" were wearing Che Guevera T-shirts and there was little critical patience with a movie that made the Communists the enemy in 1969."

Still, Hitchcock held his ground...against military totalitarianism. I find it interesting that Rico Parra and his men in Harlem are all in their military fatigues. Castro's takeover was a very MILITARY operation and it remains intriguing to me that a lot of film critics of 1969 seemed to have a liking for dicatorship and military domination. After all, what could be more satisfying than making your political enemies DIE and submit to prison or servitude.

Hitchcock is as even-handed as he can bewhen Rico and Juanita have their final, fatal talk as he embraces her(paraphrased)

Rico: Why do you betray us?
Juanita: For turning my country into a prison.
Rico: You have no right to judge.

Prison? Freedom? The rich versus "the people"? Its all relative.

Even today.

Hitchcock noted in his late days that for making "Torn Curtain" and "Topaz" and making the Communists his villains, he was an "Enemy of the State" in the Soviet Union and its sattelites. He feared flying because of possible hijackings to Cuba or, if he were flying in Europe, to Russia. So he paid a price.

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I liked how the actual footage of Castro (and Che) bleneded in very well with Andre, Rico and Juanita. Even the way the camera slowly zooms in on Fidel.
Another interesting touch by Hitch.

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Get over the sixties and the "truly massive changes" you thought occurred at that time, as if distrust of government, assassinations, race riots and protests were all devised by you bunch of self-obsessed media-puppet baby-boomers. Us in the younger generations will all breath a long sigh of relief
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Well, it wasn't all hippies and flower power. That was in fact a distinct minority, primarily on the west coast. Don't forget that Nixon started his administration in 1969, and it was the era of the "hard hats" and the Silent Majority. The hippie movement was already fading (having peaked in '67/'68), and would all but disappear by the early '70s.

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