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Roscoe Lee Browne in Topaz


I post this about two days after the announcement of the death of Roscoe Lee Browne in April of 2007.

Obituaries led with Browne's working with Hitchcock on "Topaz" -- proof that the Hitchcock name carries weight even if the Hitchcock movie in question isn't among his best.

Still, Roscoe Lee Browne was, reportedly, Hitchcock's favorite actor in "Topaz," and appeared in Hitchcock's personal favorite sequence in the episodic "Topaz" -- the "Hotel Theresa" suspense sequence.

"Topaz" lacked a major star in the lead of French spy Andre Devereaux,for whom Hitchcock selected unknown Frederick Stafford; therefore it rather depended on colorful character actors along the way. Roscoe Lee Browne was certainly colorful, and perhaps the sole actor of color to figure importantly in a Hitchcock film (other than, perhaps, one of the cast in "Lifeboat.")

Browne plays DuBois, "the Man from Martinque," a freelance spy who doubles as a Harlem florist and who is recruited by Andre to enter the Hotel Theresa and get photographs of papers relating to the Cuban Missile Crisis from a briefcase held by Castro lieutenant Rico Parra (John Vernon, yet another personable character actor who would go on to a certain fame in "Dirty Harry," "Josey Wales," and "Animal House.")

Roscoe Lee Browne becomes the "lead hero" of "Topaz" for a major scene, while Andre literally watches from the sidelines: across the street from the Hotel Theresa.

DuBois is a charming, jaunty, elegant man, whose sense of humor is no better illustrated than in this exhange with Andre over what kind of fake press credentials he should use to get in to see Parra:

DuBois: Shall I be Ebony (magazine) or Playboy?
Andre: Ebony.
DuBois: I would prefer Playboy.
Andre: EBONY
DuBois: Man, are you square.

DuBois manages to charm his way into the Hotel Theresa to pay off another Cuban, Uribe. Together, DuBois and Uribe steal Parra's briefcase away from him in a classic little Hitchcock suspense sequence. Parra bursts in on the men in a bathroom while they are photographing the papers, like pornographers. DuBois leaps out a window onto an awning below and saves himself (and his photos of the key Cuban Missile papers); Uribe does not.

One critic wrote that Roscoe Lee Browne played DuBois in "the Martin Balsam manner". Both actors were short, bald, suave and possessed of fine voices (though Browne's was "super-fine.") DuBois can be seen as a variation on Balsam's detective Arbogast in "Psycho" : both men use their wiles to outfox opponents out of information (Norman Bates, Rico Parra), and both men enter "zones of danger" (the Bates mansion for Arbogast, the Hotel Theresa filled with Cubans for DuBois.) But DuBois KNOWS of his danger, and survives and escapes. Barely.

Browne was famous for other things. Narrating "Babe" in his later years. Being famously stuck in an elevator with Archie Bunker.

In 1972, Browne was John Wayne's heroic associate in "The Cowboys" pitted against the evil Bruce Dern. Thus did two Hitchcock actors of the late period -- Browne and Dern -- join their differing personalities and differing great voices together.

I prefer to envision Roscoe Lee Browne leaving his life the way DuBois leaves one scene in "Topaz." Entering an elevator in the Hotel Theresa and bidding farewell to the Cubans, DuBois turns, smiles and waves, as the elevator doors close...

...and take him away from us.

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I would indeed say that the scenes with Mr. Browne and the late Mr. Vernon were the best in the film. It would've been interesting (not to mention groundbreaking) if somehow Mr. Browne had gotten to play the lead French agent, Devereaux, instead of the competent, though colorless, Frederick Stafford. Mr. Browne had far more charisma and panache to pull off the part.

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You forgot to mention "wooden" with regard to Frederick Stafford, but ultimately I think that that was really Hitchcock's fault.

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Funny thing, Frederick Stafford looked for all the world like an older, dissipated John Gavin -- the hero of "Psycho," who is often called wooden in that part.

Maybe it comes with the looks...

P.S. I thought that Gavin was better than they said...but not Stafford.

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P.S. I thought that Gavin was better than they said...
I though Gavin was o.k. in "Psycho".

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Browne is the coolest guy in the movie. Just the sauve way he handles Uribe, when the guy starts to pull away and then he reels him right back. It's wonderfully underplayed by Browne, which is a lucky thing since the actor playing Uribe is a bit of a ham.

I found Browne's speaking voice, "superfine" as ecarle says, a bit of an impediment in taking him as naturally as I would another actor, something I needed time to accept in "The Cowboys", but in that scene and the earlier one in the flower shop, working as a silent actor, he shows great range and subtlety. Good accent, too. RIP, RLB.

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Yes! "MAAAHN, are you SQUARE!" my favorite line of the whole film.

"Could be worse."
"Howwww?"
"Could be raining."

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Yes, it is a most effective sequence in the movie . . though very different from the novel . . .

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A comment from 15 years ago:

I found Browne's speaking voice, "superfine" as ecarle says, a bit of an impediment in taking him as naturally as I would another actor, something I needed time to accept in "The Cowboys", but in that scene and the earlier one in the flower shop, working as a silent actor, he shows great range and subtlety. Good accent, too. RIP, RLB.

A response from ecarle, 15 years later:

Roscoe Lee Browne very much elevates Topaz. He did on its release (his is the best sequence), but he does so moreso now....with movies like The Cowboys and Babe(narrator only) having come after Topaz and to greater effect.

"That voice" in these two great scenes, from The Cowboys, in which Browne plays the great-named "Jebediah Nightlinger" (in a movie where evil Bruce Dern has to suffice with "Long Hair."):

SCENE ONE: Browne's charge of pre-teen boys(in the main) on a cattle drive have stumbled onto an isolated wagon of hookers come to cash in on the drive. Their madam is played by Colleen Dewhurst, a mannish, deep voiced woman(sometimes wife of George C. Scott) who plays as formidable as a madam would need to be on the open range.

Browne convinces Dewhurst to "call off" her beckoning young hookers. Dewhurt grudingly obliges -- and then offers the women to Browne.

His response -- all superslow Shakespearean cadence and elegant tone:

"Well..I have the inclination..the maturity.. and the wherewithal....but unfortunately, I don't have the time."

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SCENE TWO:

Villain Bruce Dern and his gang are stringing Browne up for a hanging. He requests a last prayer to God. Dern grants it.

Browne is confident of what is going to happen as he says:

"I regret trifling with married women. I'm thoroughly ashamed of cheating at cards. I deplore my occasional departures from the truth. Forgive me for taking your name in vain, my Saturday drunkeness, my Sunday sloth. Above all, forgive me for the men I've killed in anger and (looking at Bruce Dern) for those I am about to."

Whereupon , the supposedly doomed Browne unleashes hell on Dern and his gang in the form of the young "Cowboys" who cut him loose and join him in executing all the varmints.

..but its those speeches that really count for Roscoe Lee Browne.

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ecarle, I know I've said this before, but I'll say it again...your posts are just so valuable for someone like me. I've never seen "Topaz" (Unfortunately, I haven't seen any of Hitchcock's movies after "The Birds," which is something I need to rectify), but I so much enjoyed reading these posts regarding Roscoe Lee Browne.

I'm a fan of the original "Law & Order" TV show (I've seen just about every episode thru the Jerry Orbach years.. I was a college Senior when L & O debuted in 1990 and I was getting ready to get married when Orbach left in 2004). Roscoe Lee Browne was on one of the early episodes (Season 3:10 "Consultation"), which was fairly memorable. I never knew anything about his association with Hitchcock. Thank you for providing a "frame of reference" regarding Roscoe Lee Browne!

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Hey, Golfnguitars, thanks for stopping by! Isn't it amazing that this particular thread started FIFTEEN YEARS AGO, but the owners of Moviechat lifted it from the old imdb boards and put it here, and we can still talk from it. Very nice.

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I've never seen "Topaz" (Unfortunately, I haven't seen any of Hitchcock's movies after "The Birds," which is something I need to rectify),

Well in the "critical world of Hitchocck" those five movies after The Birds -- Marnie, Torn Curtain, Topaz, Frenzy, and Family Plot -- are considered "the films of Hitchcock's decline" except for one of them -- the British psychothriller "Frenzy" of 1972 which got a lot of rave reviews and was considered a big comeback for Hitchcock. "Frenzy" really "throws off the narrative" of a decline for Hitchocck. Its like "OK, he got sick and old and out of it and couldn't make great films anymore -- except ONE TIME right near the end, he got all his powers back? Huh?" Well, the answer is that Frenzy isn't quite THAT great, he just finally did a "psycho movie" again -- with a "wrong man" plot and...audiences and critics responded to that and nostalgia kicked in.

Topaz was right ahead of Frenzy and seemed to be "the worst of the worst." It had no major movie stars in it (Torn Curtain had Paul Newman and Julie Andrews.) But there is some back and forth: Torn Curtain and Topaz are BOTH Cold War political thrillers, with Communists as villains , and thus are somewhat similar in look and feel and...some people like Torn Curtain better(with the two big stars) and some people like Topaz better(with a bunch of great character actors like Roscoe Lee Browne stealing the movie from its dull unknown star Frederick Stafford.)

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but I so much enjoyed reading these posts regarding Roscoe Lee Browne.

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He was a real "great" of sorts -- never rising to the level of stardom that Poitier and other African American actors reached, but always there to do what a great character actor does -- "take over the movie and our attention." He did this in support to John Wayne in The Cowboys(and moves into the lead when Wayne prematurally leaves the movie) and his sequence in Topaz is like a "small mini-movie" STARRING Roscoe Lee Browne. He is in the movie early, for about 20 minutes, and then leaves it forever when it leaves New York City(Harlem) for places like Cuba and Paris.

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I'm a fan of the original "Law & Order" TV show (I've seen just about every episode thru the Jerry Orbach years.. I was a college Senior when L & O debuted in 1990 and I was getting ready to get married when Orbach left in 2004).

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Helluva show, and never had a better actor/character than Jerry Orbach. I keep up with L and O often on the road in hotel rooms or on weekend marathons. Its like eating peanuts, the whole thing gets wrapped up in one hour(much easier on the brain than these multi-seasons series.) I love how in the "Law"(cops) part of the show, the murder seems to be about ONE thing, but turns out to be about ANOTHER thing entirely. Then the Order(lawyers) take over for the second half hour, after the cops solve the case in..one half hour! What a formula! Like eating peanuts, I can't get enough of these quick shows.

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Roscoe Lee Browne was on one of the early episodes (Season 3:10 "Consultation"), which was fairly memorable.

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I'll have to look out for that one. Browne would turn up in surprising places -- like as a judge in the 1986 movie "Legal Eagles" with Robert Redford and Debra Winger, or as the great narrator in 1995's Babe. He was always working, movies, TV and the older he got, he never lost that great VOICE.

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I never knew anything about his association with Hitchcock.

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As I noted somewhere up thread, when Browne died, his obituary led with Hitchcock and Topaz. This goes to show you that for ANY actor who worked with Alfred Hitchcock -- whether the movie was a classic or not -- the Hitchcock connection got the ink.

Also, this about Topaz: it got a lot of bad reviews or unimpressed ones, but one particular critic at a very important newspaper - Vincent Canby of the New York Times -- wrote a review with the title: "Topaz: Alfred Hitchcock at his Best" and put the movie on the Top Ten of 1969. So THAT critic thought Topaz was great. The National Board of Review awarded Hitchcock Best Director for Topaz...possibly for his body of work. So...it has its fans. I like it very much and it was a BIG deal seeing it with my family at Christmas in 1969...I was a very young Hitchcock fan thanks to TV broadcasts of Rear Window, Vertigo, North by NOrthwest and Psycho(that one I wasn't allowed to see) and here was my first chance to see a NEW Hitchcock after seeing those movies. It was a big deal.

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Thank you for providing a "frame of reference" regarding Roscoe Lee Browne!

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Thank you for reading it. You might want to rent Topaz and watch Browne's sequence early on. Then you can turn it off after that if you want!

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ecarle wrote: "Also, this about Topaz: it got a lot of bad reviews or unimpressed ones, but one particular critic at a very important newspaper - Vincent Canby of the New York Times -- wrote a review with the title: "Topaz: Alfred Hitchcock at his Best" and put the movie on the Top Ten of 1969. So THAT critic thought Topaz was great. The National Board of Review awarded Hitchcock Best Director for Topaz...possibly for his body of work. So...it has its fans. I like it very much and it was a BIG deal seeing it with my family at Christmas in 1969...I was a very young Hitchcock fan thanks to TV broadcasts of Rear Window, Vertigo, North by NOrthwest and Psycho(that one I wasn't allowed to see) and here was my first chance to see a NEW Hitchcock after seeing those movies. It was a big deal.

Thank you for reading it. You might want to rent Topaz and watch Browne's sequence early on. Then you can turn it off after that if you want!"

If and when (hopefully "when") I get to watch "Topaz," I will let you know. 1969 was the year I was born...again, I really enjoy reading your posts so much and the perspectives/frames of references they provide! I'm sure Roscoe Lee Browne and Alfred Hitchcock would both get a kick at us still talking about "Topaz" over 50 years later! 😃

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ecarle wrote: "He was a real "great" of sorts -- never rising to the level of stardom that Poitier and other African American actors reached, but always there to do what a great character actor does -- "take over the movie and our attention." He did this in support to John Wayne in The Cowboys(and moves into the lead when Wayne prematurally leaves the movie) and his sequence in Topaz is like a "small mini-movie" STARRING Roscoe Lee Browne. He is in the movie early, for about 20 minutes, and then leaves it forever when it leaves New York City(Harlem) for places like Cuba and Paris."

Thank you again for that. I hope to watch "Topaz" one day and it will be interesting for me to see Roscoe Lee Browne as a younger actor. He was older in just about everything I saw him in...but he was so memorable when he showed up on the screen (be it TV or movie screen).

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ecarle wrote: "Helluva show, and never had a better actor/character than Jerry Orbach. I keep up with L and O often on the road in hotel rooms or on weekend marathons. Its like eating peanuts, the whole thing gets wrapped up in one hour(much easier on the brain than these multi-seasons series.) I love how in the "Law"(cops) part of the show, the murder seems to be about ONE thing, but turns out to be about ANOTHER thing entirely. Then the Order(lawyers) take over for the second half hour, after the cops solve the case in..one half hour! What a formula! Like eating peanuts, I can't get enough of these quick shows."

Awesome! 😃 Again, I agree wholeheartedly with you regarding Jerry Orbach.. I have tried to watch the L & Os after he left the show, but I just can't do it. I really thought L & O was going to be canceled early in its run (like a lot of the shows that I really like) because its ratings weren't very good. Yes, it was such an interesting show to me...it was different than "Matlock" (which I liked). 😃 I'm like you...I still watch the episodes today (Well, Seasons 1-14) when I can. It's like a time machine in some ways...I will be watching an episode that I remember watching when it originally aired and think, "I can't believe this episode is 30 years old now!" 😃

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ecarle wrote: "Hey, Golfnguitars, thanks for stopping by! Isn't it amazing that this particular thread started FIFTEEN YEARS AGO, but the owners of Moviechat lifted it from the old imdb boards and put it here, and we can still talk from it. Very nice."

Yes, that really is amazing to think about! To put it in perspective for me, my oldest son turns 15 later this year. This thread is older than he is! 😃

That really is something I really like about this site...reading some of the old IMDb posts. I never posted there, but I would "lurk" and read posts...I sure enjoyed reading your posts there and all the interactions you had with certain users (swanstep, telegonus, Eric Barker, Gubbio, et.al.).

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ecarle wrote: "Well in the "critical world of Hitchcock" those five movies after The Birds -- Marnie, Torn Curtain, Topaz, Frenzy, and Family Plot -- are considered "the films of Hitchcock's decline" except for one of them -- the British psychothriller "Frenzy" of 1972 which got a lot of rave reviews and was considered a big comeback for Hitchcock. "Frenzy" really "throws off the narrative" of a decline for Hitchocck. Its like "OK, he got sick and old and out of it and couldn't make great films anymore -- except ONE TIME right near the end, he got all his powers back? Huh?" Well, the answer is that Frenzy isn't quite THAT great, he just finally did a "psycho movie" again -- with a "wrong man" plot and...audiences and critics responded to that and nostalgia kicked in.

Topaz was right ahead of Frenzy and seemed to be "the worst of the worst." It had no major movie stars in it (Torn Curtain had Paul Newman and Julie Andrews.) But there is some back and forth: Torn Curtain and Topaz are BOTH Cold War political thrillers, with Communists as villains , and thus are somewhat similar in look and feel and...some people like Torn Curtain better(with the two big stars) and some people like Topaz better (with a bunch of great character actors like Roscoe Lee Browne stealing the movie from its dull unknown star Frederick Stafford.)"

Thank you for that. Yes, I really want to watch "Frenzy" at some point. It does seem like that is the best of his last 5 films. I'd really like to see them all...even "Hitchcock on the decline" is better than most directors at their peaks! 😃

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