Bloopers and Trivia


["Bloopers and Trivia"? Aren't these very separate and distinct topics? Normally, I'd certainly think so. In the case of what one writer called the "transformation" of The Sterile Cuckoo from its literary roots in the popular novel by John Nichols into its cinematic counterpart under Alan Pakula's direction and Alvin Sargent's screenwriting, it becomes more difficult to classify what's intentional and what's accidental. "Cuckoo" has a complicated background. Consider this posting and its responses as simply a scattershot listing of curious details about the movie, some of which are clearly embarrassing errors, while others are noteworthy or questionable alterations of plot and character from the novel, and still others are tangential minutiae of interest only to obsessive nitwits such as the initiator of this thread.]

-Perhaps the most glaring and frequently-noted problem is that the weather doesn't appear to change much throughout the movie-- looking at all times like Autumn-- but the story takes us well into Spring. The characters complain of cold in the Winter, yet there's never any snow in the many outdoor shots... for residents of upstate New York, this must be very disorienting. There is a lyrical interlude in which the couple is shown wading along the beach in shorts during what was supposed to be the coldest part of the year! Brrr! The actors are shown sitting in a big, green and leafy tree, having only just returned from Christmas vacation. Most egregious of all, in the closing scenes, which take place only weeks from Summer Vacation, the couple takes a long walk down a path straddled by colorful, fallen leaves! Wasn't a chore of twenty minutes with a leafblower in the budget?

-The names of prominent characters have been altered in inexplicable ways: "Roe Billins" from the novel has become "Eddie Roe" and "Harry Schoonover" ("Schoons") is introduced as "Charlie Schumacher". This no doubt confused the cast: during the "is-he-queer?" argument scene, Burton twice calls McIntire's character "Charlie Schoonover".

-In the novel, Pookie overflows with adjectival descriptions of other people, such as:

"...of all the cross-eyed square-toed pink-phalanged five-uddered knuckle-brained clapp-congested audastic atavistic Bavarian Yeti sons of cabbage-headed hogbody bigluvulating bastards..."

and

"Jerry Payne, you lop-eared lilly-livered son of a double-crossing egg-laying mammoth, you shut up, God damn you, you and your God damn friends, you God damn animals, SHUT UP!"

However, I can't recall anywhere in the book where Pookie calls anyone a "creep" or a "weirdo". This is entirely Sargent's and/or Pakula's invention; in fact, the book does not describe Pookie as an outcast or unpopular girl at all. In the movie, she describes herself as a "literature nut", which is consistent with her character in the book... yet one of her letters to Jerry as depicted onscreen is a childish scrawl populated with the most naive misspellings imaginable: "takeing" "wierdos" etc. Would the highly literate and poetic Pookie have authored such a thing? I read that John Nichols was "let go" as screenwriter by Pakula; I believe this cinematic Pookie was cobbled together into a very different, and, to the author, practically unrecognizable character, and often wonder how Nichols felt about that.

-As they walk past the Holsteins discussing Pookie's letters, the couple's clothing changes completely after they've rounded the corner of the fence.

-In the movie, Nancy Putnam has been transmogrified into a despised enemy of Pookie's, whereas in the book they are best friends! While drinking plays a prominent role in the destruction of Jerry and Pookie's love affair in the book, nothing like her drunken rant against the "weirdos"-- Nancy in particular-- occurs there; this is another movie invention, but probably a good one. It appears that one of Nancy's lines was removed from the final cut: in the scene where Jerry is asking after Pookie, Nancy turns away from him appearing to have just said something very distasteful, and Jerry looks a bit stunned. I think this is where, according to Minnelli:

"'For example,' added Liza,
'after Pookie runs away from
school, and Jerry tries to talk to
one of the students about her,
the girl replies: 'We weren't the
best of friends. You know she
stole an insect specimen from
Marsha, during the first week of
school.'"

http://www-tech.mit.edu/archives/VOL_089/TECH_V089_S0409_P005.txt

The line about stealing the insect specimen (presumably the one given to Jerry as a gift during Pookie's first visit to him) appears to have been edited out. Perhaps the director thought this line would cause the audience to lose sympathy for Pookie? At any rate, the entire stolen gift event appears nowhere in the novel, though allusions to "Glorious beetles" infest Pookie's fey banter forever after Jerry shows Pookie a Gloriosa Beetle in a matchbox.

One writer has noted the "bug" subtext of of Pookie's advances on Jerry: she starts bugging him by showing up in a Volkswagen bug and giving him a bug! In the movie, Pookie asks Jerry about the "Glorious" beetle, and he provides a species name that sounds something like "Malictus polonus"... whatever he says, it bears no resemblance to the actual species name of the Gloriosa beetle, which is "Chrysina gloriosa", formerly "Plusiotis gloriosa". These are facts Nichols himself surely knew, but perhaps Sargent didn't. At any rate, why invoke a fake species name when five minutes of research-- at a college campus, no less-- would turn up the correct one? Perhaps so Liza's Pookie could spin her garbled, semi-rhyming benediction: "Dominus, Dominus, Malictus polonabus"? I fear the term "Malictus polonus" is bad Latin for "Pollack joke".

-Elsewhere it is implied that the titular poem was in the script, but was removed, no doubt leaving many to wonder at the meaning and relevance of a "Sterile Cuckoo". This is especially sad, because the short poem would have fit well if recited during the alienation-of-affection scenes in Jerry's dorm during Spring Break:

"Without looking up she began to read. Her voice was flat, emotionless.

Oh, Hi-ho in the Lavender Woods
A Sterile Cuckoo is crying;

Oh Hi-ho in the Lavender Snow
A Sterile Cuckoo is dying.

Cuckoo! Cuckoo!
Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

In the real dark night of her soul it's
always three o'clock in the morning.
(F. S. Fitz-P. Adams)"

Hardly a title expected to pack 'em in in the first place, Pakula quipped that the only thing worse than "The Sterile Cuckoo" was the title under which the movie was released in Europe: "Pookie".

-Depicting Pookie as a tortured but sympathetic character seems to have been the primary intention of the screenwriter and director, and they turned many elements of the plot inside-out to do it. Hence, Pookie's family-- fully intact though described by her as "inanities personified" in the book-- is a heartrending tragedy in the movie. In the screenwritten version, Pookie's mother died at her birth, and her father never got over it, and this is the environment from which the deeply wounded Pookie has arisen. Pookie's resulting obsession with death and dying is played hard onscreen, as is the strained relationship with her father. However, the actor who plays the father is uncredited in the scroll, as are Roe and Nancy and nearly everyone else in the picture.

In the novel, Pookie is obsessed with death in a rather different vein: she is a killer. She kills spiders, frogs, crows ("I'll get one of those miserable black bastards if it's the last thing I do!")... ironically forming an intimate relationship with each of her victims before, during or after the killing. One reviewer described Pookie as a "monster" and was at pains to explain why so many male readers of the book fell in love with such a twisted young woman.

Among the most prominent plot revisions/reversals:
*-In the novel, Jerry surprises Pookie with an unannounced and obnoxious visit to her college; in the movie, Pookie chases Jerry to his dorm.
*-In the novel, the Spring Break "together alone" time was one of great intimacy; in the movie, it was a time of estrangement.
*-Nothing like Pookie's claimed pregnancy occurs anywhere in the novel.

-How many have noticed that, in the famous mouth-taped-shut scene, Minnelli is already chewing on her dinner as she removes the tape? How/when did that mouthfull get past the tape?

-I suspect Liza Minnelli-- who mounted a determined, unrelenting pursuit of this part for close to three years, beating out Elizabeth Hartman, Patty Duke and Tuesday Weld for the role-- remained very attached to the details of Nichols' characterization of Pookie. She appears to have inveigled small details lifted straight from the book when- and wherever she could squeeze them past the scriptwriter. Such as:
*-A dancing scene where she stands on her lover's feet
*-Lots of stuff involving feathers from torn/thrown pillows happens in the book, but would not have been required for her "drunken rant" scene
*-The brief kite flying scene... Pookie's affinity for kites was well described in the novel
*-The verbatim "one minute of good things" monologue, which she also inserted into her version of the soundtrack theme song
*-Her brief "rolling in the grass" scene in the cemetery, a detail which occurred at a crucial point in the novel.

-There is a dog which appears in the gymnasium and other scenes, wandering around for no apparent reason, barking at vehicles, etc. Since the movie was shot at Nichols' alma mater not too many years after he attended-- and, let's face it, the book reads a lot more like a memoir than a novel-- I have often wondered... could that dog be... POOPSICK? That dog appears very much as Poopsick is described in the book.




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The pop single from The Sandpipers, "Come Saturday Morning," written by Fred Karlin with lyrics by Dory Previn, is often subtitled or noted as coming from the soundtrack of The Sterile Cuckoo. In fact, this pop single doesn't appear anywhere in the movie soundtrack, an old LP of which I recently purchased. Here are the lyrics everyone heard on AM radio, which continue to be reproduced in karaoke bars everywhere:

Come Saturday morning
I'm going away with my friend
We'll Saturday spend 'til the end of the day
Just I and my friend
We'll travel for miles in our Saturday smiles
And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone


Come Saturday morning
I'm going away with my friend
We'll Saturday laugh more than half of the day
Just I and my friend
Dressed up in our rings and our Saturday things
And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone

[break]

Just I and my friend
We'll travel for miles in our Saturday smiles
And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone



The movie soundtrack LP lyrics are different... though during one track you can hear the "Saturday laugh/half" rhyme (only once), the "rings/Saturday things" lyric occurs nowhere during the movie or on the soundtrack LP. In the middle of the movie, during the lyrical beach-walking interlude, these lyrics are heard:

Come Saturday morning
We'll go to the end of the world
We'll Saturday walk and we'll talk and we'll play
Just I and my friend
With nobody there on that Saturday fair
And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone


But these lyrics are not on the soundtrack LP.

The lyrics to the song which opens and closes the movie are these:

("Main Title")
Come Saturday morning
I'm going away with my friend
We'll Saturday spend 'til the end of the day
Just I and my friend
We'll travel for miles in our Saturday smiles
And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone.

Come Saturday morning
We'll head for the east or the west
In Saturday best, we will rest on the way
Just I and my friend
But everyone knows how a Saturday goes
And so we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone.


("End Walk")
Come Saturday morning
I'm going away with my friend
We'll Saturday spend 'til the end of the day
Just I and my friend
With secrets to tell in that Saturday spell
And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone.
Just I and my friend
With nobody there on that Saturday fair
And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone.

[break]

Just I and my friend
But everyone knows how a Saturday goes
And so we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone.


Is it only my imagination, or are the actual soundtrack lyrics and their particular sequence more evocative of a certain lonely intimacy than the pop version? I never really cared for the "rings and things" bit anyway. I enjoy the genuine soundtrack much more, as it captures much more of the feeling of the film... there is even a short instrumental on the LP entitled "Pookie Adams" which, as you might imagine, is a terribly sad piece of music.

Liza Minnelli recorded her own version of "Come Saturday Morning" which is both quirky and very, very short-- the track runs for only 1 3/4 minutes! She sings:

Come Saturday morning
I'm going away with my friend
We'll Saturday spend 'til the end of the day
Just I and my friend
We'll travel for miles in our Saturday smiles
And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone


At this point, she lapses into her spoken-word Pookie monologue:

You know what the trouble is? The trouble is that all the good things in life take place in no more than a minute... I mean, all added up, at the end of seventy years, should you live so long, you can figure the whole thing out... you spent twenty years sleeping... five years going to the bathroom... 35 years doing some kind of work you absolutely hated... 8,759 minutes blinking your eyes... and added to that, you've got that one minute of good things... then one day you wonder whether your minute's up.

Then she resumes singing:

And then we'll move on
But we will remember
Long after Saturday's gone







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There were actually two versions of Liza's "Come Saturday Morning". A second (or perhaps earlier recorded version) wound up on a Liza compilation LP and ended with another spoken bit by Minnelli/Pookie Adams as the music wound down:

"Let's never be weirdos..."

that version was always my favorite but is very difficult to find.

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Wow... I wish I'd heard that one... is that the only difference, or is there more?

From various sources, I've found that there was a lot more to this picture than finally hit the screen in the final edit. "The Sterile Cuckoo" poem was recited by Minnelli in the Spring Break scenes, for instance, and was later edited out! Nichols himself wrote an entire screenplay (intended to be shot in B/W) and even shot footage of Hamilton College, but all of it got scrapped! I keep running across stills of scenes that ended up cutting-room-floored:

http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/lizaminnelli/sterile3A.jpg

http://www.geocities.jp/metropoleclub/movie/youga/3/kuchizuke/0310012.jpg

Now, I realize that stills are shot before/after the film is rolling... but when was the dorm window open? Where were the swingsets?

If there is ever a DVD, I hope it contains some "restoration". There will never be a "directors cut" now that Pakula is long gone, but maybe someone will find some of this lost cinematic treasure in a can somewhere, and maybe we can get a few more insights from some of the survivors... after all, Nichols, Sargent, Minnelli and Burton are very much alive and kicking, though their fates have diverged (to put it mildly) since this movie was made.

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THANK YOU for those pictures! Wow. The swingset shot is incredible!!! I'm using it as my screen saver now. :D Liza's "Come Saturday Morning" with the poignant spoken ending wasn't on her A&M album (also called "Come Saturday Morning") but WAS on the 45 single of the song and the 8-track version of the album itself (!). AS far as I can tell, that is the only difference between the 2 versions, her vocal is the same.
I know what you mean about the missing scenes. One of the 8 US lobby cards reveals Pookie at the very end laying down on the hotel bed with Jerry standing over her, saying to me they got up and he put Pookie to bed and maybe had some further dialouge...but still, I'm glad they decided to fade out after the hug because the look on her face is so telling. I also have a old paperback on Liza's career which came out in 1975. It has a still of Jerry serving Pookie dinner in the Easter vacation/closed dorm sequence...and he's wearing what appears to be a paper cafeteria hat!
Speaking of that sequence, isn't it incredible that look on Wendell Burton's face when he tells her she can speak and she playfully screams...he just looks so done with her, and then her reaction shot says she knows it but is helpless to do anything about it.
I knew someone who met Wendell Burton around 1980 or '81, he had become a born again Christian and toured Calvary Chapels speaking to groups and also recorded 2 Christian albums. In Pauline Kael's New Yorker review of "Sterile Cuckoo" she notes that he was discovered playing Charlie Brown in a popular stage version of "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown", she also notes he gives a flawless performance. That's a fun review by the way, it was reproduced in Kael's book "Deeper into Movies".

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Oh yes, Moonspinner! I've been collecting reviews of both the book and the movie for several months now, and Pauline Kael's is an important one. She is one of the few reviewers who didn't wallow in irrelevancies. One of the most frequent criticisms in reviews of that time (from Ebert, for instance) is that these student characters lacked all sociopolitical consciousness, and should have been shown protesting and whatnot! That criticism is not quite accurate; at one point, Pookie blurts:

"Barbara Eisenberg. She's very liberal. I SAID SHE'S VERY LIBERAL! She's always making placards and things. All the liberal girls wear their shorts loose."

Which is about all the attention the topic deserved. Imagine what a mess this movie would be today, if it had striven to be "relevant"!

But Kael's review is not my favorite. My favorite was written by Gordon Gow of "Film and Filming" magazine in the UK. I transcribe it here, just for you, Moonspinner:

Pookie
1969

Surprisingly enough, Alan J Pakula has never directed a film before this one, although the sensitivity he brings to it can doubtless be related to his long experience as producer of the Robert Mulligan films, which have included Fear Strikes Out, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Baby the Rain Must Fall. Just occasionally, as in Love with the Proper Stranger, there has been a mawkish touch to their work; but as a rule, the control of sentimentality is commendable in the Mullign-Pakula oeuvre, and the same is true of Pakula's first solo effort, a delicate exercise in the genre I tend to think of as "sad comedy". An ugly duckling with urchin hair and spectacles as big as saucers, Pookie strives hard to maintain a bright demeanour in order to conceal, and even overcome in her mind, the terrible insecurity which is eating away inside of her. She is not unlike Sally Bowles in I am a Camera and Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's-- but even more vulnerable because she is younger and less sophisticated and too eager by half when it comes to grabbing a guy.

She appears to be doomed to spinsterhood, which might be all right for lots of girls but would be utter hell for Pookie. The end of the movie, an echo of the beginning, serves to reinforce this thought. The opening and closing passages take place at bus stops, forlorn little fragments, between which Pookie is observed during a fleeting but significant part of her life. Her intention is to clutch one human being and keep hold of him, in a metaphorical tent, excluding society at large and preserving an impossibly idyllic apartness. THe object of her greed is Jerry, a hapless boy from a nearby college who is aware from the start that Pookie tells outrageous lies to gain any small advantage, and also that these lies are a defiant manifestation of her obsession with death. The lies are extremely funny, but the obsession is gradually shown to be dark and dreadful. It envelops them both: they make love in a cemetery; and when the autumn woods of up-state New York have turned to gold and Jerry says, "The leaves are beautiful", Pookie's response is simply "Because they're dying, huh?"

The screenplay by Alvin Sargent, from a novel by John Nichols, uses a minimum of words to give us as much information as we need in order to understand Pookie's neurosis: her mother died giving birth to her, and as her father's affection has been undermined by a tactless gift from Pookie, which was meant to cement their companionship but, instead, has established a bridgeless chasm between them. Such points are made almost casually, amid the humour. The construction is immaculate-- Pookie's abrupt disappearance towards the end of the movie is strangely effective, like a deprivation-- and her small key speeches are touchingly gauche: "All the good things in life take no more than a minute, I mean all added up... so one day you wonder whether your minute's up"... or, "When everything's a little bit perfect, I just get a little bit nervous-- I mean it can't last."

The control, in respect of both emotion and of comedy, is most evident in the central performance by Liza Minnelli, who might so easily have sent Pookie way over the top and still evoked gales of laughter and floods of tears from audiences who are responsive to the old-fashioned brand of showbiz knowhow. But she doesn't. Looking sometimes like her mother, and sometimes like her father, Miss Minnelli is constantly and superbly herself. She impinges, upon me at any rate, as an actress rather than a star. The quality we sampled in Charlie Bubbles is extended and tested and found to be good. The present movie has also a funny undressing scene which loses nothing by comparison with the one she shared with Albert Finney; and she is given many opportunities to exploit the familiar gambits of the clown who is sick at heart. At all times she underplays and, consequently, gets nearer to truth: whether flopping on a gym floor to play dead with arms and legs splayed out like a helpless puppy, or shoving her way through the crush of a party where she doesn't belong, or reaching for the handle of a door that leads to nowhere on a beach-front in desolate winter. Only twice does she cry, and then not very much, once in a telephone scene which must surely be the best thing of its kind since Joan Fontaine's in the Cuckor movie of The Women, and again in the shadows of the room where Jerry finds her after that startling disappearance.

Her tears, like all her expressions of deep emotion, are discreet, and her entire performance blends with the muted beauty of Pakula's concept, reflected in the lightly romantic visuals, the fluent montage of shots, the meaningful changes of season. One comes away with memories of a fire outdoors to keep lovers warm, of rain on a window or wind in the trees above the cemetery, and of a song entitled "Come Saturday Morning" which, like "Windmills of Your Mind" in The Thomas Crown Affair, has an essential thematic reason to be incorporated with the movie and is not just tacked on to furnish exploitation plugs.

I have attempted, in praising a work of intelligence and restraint, not to go overboard myself in my enthusiasm. And this has been hard, because, truth to tell, I am hopelessly enamoured of Pookie-- so funny and sad, and in the end so ruthlessly honest, it is a credit to American cinema and a healthy recognition of the change in tastes of contemporary audiences. Whether mass reaction will bear me out remains to be seen; but then, market research is not a critic's business, thank God. My response is strictly individual, from both heart and mind, and I hope very much that enough other people will be equally appreciative, so that Pakula is encouraged to direct again... and often.


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THANK YOU once again!! This gentleman Gow certainly was precient in his comparisons, and time has proved him right on the money. I wonder about the "trivia" that Patty Duke was offered the role of Pookie first. Nowhere in my Liza books does it mention that. In Patty's autobiography, she writes that she and Liza were both strong contenders for the lead in "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden" (which was made years later with Kathleen Quinlan) but she doesn't mention "Cuckoo" at all and I doubt the whole assertion highly.

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Hey, you're welcome! Great shots can be found at these sites:

http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/lizaminnelli/Sterile.html

http://www.geocities.jp/metropoleclub/movie/youga/3/kuchizuke/1.html

For a really good time, run the Japanese site through Google's translation function. Surreal.

I have to point out, though, that the Patty Duke story is pretty well documented. It appears in Pakula's biography, and on the authorized Patty (or Anna or whatever she calls herself) Duke website:

http://www.officialpattyduke.com/almost.htm

Other names I've run across were Elizabeth Hartman and Tuesday Weld(!?!). I'm sure glad it was Liza!

Now, since this is my very own "Bloopers and Trivia" thread, I want to discuss a very important matter: a blooper I'm not even sure is a blooper. I'm torn:

I'm talking about the Greensleeves scene, where, for several pregnant seconds, Nancy Putnam-- the acknowleged Queen of the Weirdos-- flips everyone the bird. I noticed it when I was ten years old, and, though it is just the sort of thing a ten-year-old would notice, it has not once escaped my attention every time I've viewed the scene, which by now is many, many times. One simply can't ignore it, as Nancy's obscene gesture on the guitar neck occupies center screen, and is the only moving object... Jerry remains still and chastened after a polite but firm brush-off from Nancy, having just asked after Pookie. The camera then lingers over Nancy's extended third finger as she resumes singing.

Considered from the point of view of the Nancy character, this makes a sort of sense. What should she have felt? What would be her "motivation"? How's this: "F--- Pookie!!! 'FIBERGLASS BOOBS'?!? 'FIBERGLASS BRAIN'!?! F--- HER!!! And F--- U, Jerry, for even having the NERVE to ask me about HER!!! And while I'm at it, F--- everyone in the audience for giving a S--- about that LOSER!!!" Whether this was a deliberate, semiconscious or purely accidental act on actress Sandy Faison's part is an academic question... the point is, glaring as it is, the director left it in there... and dwelled on it for several seconds of film, so nobody could miss it.

I can imagine Pakula viewing the day's rushes, and saying to himself, "Oh no... we can't have this... we have to reshoot... wait... wait a MINUTE! That's... PERFECT!!!"

Just a fantasy of mine.

Now, for my entry in the Most Trivial Trivia Contest, here's driving directions to the graveyard, so you can go say "hello" to Arabella:

"Start off in downtown Clinton, a beautiful old village with a lush green surrounded by interesting shops and restaurants. Head west along Route 412, College Hill Road, which winds through the Hamilton College Campus. Don't forget the Root Glen, a seven-acre wooded garden and ravine off College Hill Road that provides meandering red shale paths, 65 tree species, shrubs and ferns, and scores of flowers: Primroses, irises, poppies, daisies, lilies, asters and phlox bloom successively from April through September. You'll see it on your left. Continue past the college and head through farmlands for approximately a mile and you'll come to a four-corners. Take a left onto aptly named Skyline Drive. Travel down this bumpy road, keep an eye out for tractors, and on your right you'll see a small graveyard, which was made famous by Liza Minnelli in the 1969 film The Sterile Cuckoo."

http://newtimes.rway.com/2003/summer03/sumsyl.shtml






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Terrific webpages, thanks dessin59...

but hmmm I've always wondered what does DuPont have to do with fiberglass?


Great message board. Love the passion in these responses.

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Interesting, unposed shots, but I don't see the infamous "Finger"...
perhaps it was just a slip of the digit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1969-The-Sterile-Cuckoo-lobby-cards-Liza-Minnelli_W0QQitemZ7582940616QQcategoryZ60305QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://www.movieposter.com/poster/MPW-6179/Sterile_Cuckoo.html

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Great pages!!

Have you seen the pics of "Pookie" dancing with the nuns on IMDb? Priceless!

Did you notice on the sets of lobby cards, the 11x14 size and the 8x10 size have some different shots? I love the 8x10 of Pookie in her yellow rain slicker at the window (where's all the rain??). And the snow-ski sequence, wish more of that were in the finished film!

Also, the black and white still of Pookie and Jerry at the party is wonderful. Must have been a 'wrap' shot, everyone looks so elated!

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Well, hehe, I'm not so sure about Nancy Puttnam flipping the bird. She was among friends there on the couch and I think everyone liked Jerry (as Pauline Kael wrote, "Jerry is so stable and nice"). Perhaps when they finally do the DVD commentary, they can track down ol' Nance and ask her. Tim McIntire almost had a few hits with "The Choirboys" and especially "American Hot Wax". I'd like to hear his thoughts about working on this!

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Hey kids, maybe it's just me! I may be only imagining Sandra Faison's third-finger salute, but if I am, I've "only imagined" it at least twenty times spanning over 35 years of viewing this scene... and I swear, every time, it has caught my eye as surely as if she'd pulled out a gun and shot me. I only minutes ago rewound to the scene, and this time, I clocked it: "Nance" has her middle finger extended as she plays guitar for at least 14 seconds... for a tiny portion of that time, she curls it back a bit to finger a guitar string, only to thrust it out a moment later even more prominently. Even Jerry can be seen glancing at her bird-flipping hand for a few moments. Who could miss it?

The very first time I saw the scene-- as a child in the theater-- a neighborhood friend and I cast knowing glances at one another, accompanied by Beavis-and-Butthead chuckles. So at least one other person noticed it... once... long ago...

Maybe that event conditioned me for life?

At any rate, we can all agree that movie stills are wonderful things; those images of Liza dancing with the nuns are an incredible find! However, stills have only the loosest connection to the images on the motion picture frames. Stills are shot separately, by a separate and distinct variety of photographers on the sets, and the actors are certainly posed for the stills... especially for the lobby card images. Anyone who has naively tried to use a motion picture frame image for print production knows why: frames are grainy, blurry, and just generally crappy! The studios recruited the "stills photographer" to the sets in order to solve this very problem, and we've all lived happily and confusedly ever after.

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An interesting premise, but don't get overly-analytical about these things. Nancy Putnam is not flipping the bird when she plays Greensleeves - the only thing she's "giving the finger to" is her guitar fretboard. (At one point, both her middle fingers are raised). Note her long fingernails; because of them she can only fret the notes and chords at awkward oblique angles, making for some rather ungainly hand positions.

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"Lillian Lerner... she's very emotional... cries all the time... wets her pants! I SAID SHE WETS HER PANTS!!!"

What a great movie! I'll tell you what I consider to be a not-very-trivial blooper, though: IMDB shows only 6.5 out of 10 stars rating for The Sterile Cuckoo. That rates a WTF in my book. I'll say anything less than 8 is a travesty, and I'm the first to admit this movie has flaws, in case anyone has failed to notice...

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Best scenes: Pookie saying "When things are a little bit perfect, I always get a little bit nervous."
Jerry's slow entrance into Room #5 and seeing Pookie in the chair, her face partially in the shadow.
The first conversation on the bus, "Bees are...cross-eyed...oh my God, there was this kid named Alexander Meeker!!"

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Oh, my favorite scene by far is when they're sitting in the tree and she says, "You're gonna be a weirdo soon, huh?" and later when he asks her to give the kids a chance and she says, "I grew up with them, they're all a bunch of rotten eggs." The way she delivers that line, you can sense plainly that Pookie is set in her ways and she's never going to change her opinion.
Weakest scene (maybe the only one): when Charlie goes up to the dorm room and Pookie is soused on beer and making animal noises. Liza, at this point, wasn't a very convincing drunk.

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I love all of these scenes. But my obsession with trivia in this movie compels me to ask: in that scene where Pookie's drunk and beckoning Charlie to the collapsing bed, what the hell is that thing she's holding up? It looks like some sort of big maraca made from a human skull! Amid all the other morbid imagery in the movie, this one is the most explicitly bizarre.

What IS that thing?

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I think they must be in a med student's room and it's part of his decor/homework/fetish. Hmmm. I thought it was part a classroom skeleton. What drew Charlie up there anyhow? You never saw him flirting with pookie, and there were many dorm room for him to crash in (including his own), why did he obviously follow Pookie. BTW, years ago I found a production still from TSC and it was Charlie (Tim McIntire) in Pookie's arms--and about to kiss her--not Jerry!

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I'd love to see that still--I think I remember it from a Rona Barrett gossip mag from years ago. I have the Italian movie poster for TSC, it's called "Pookie" and the two o's are over Liza's eyes (like glasses!)

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Like this:

http://www.film.tv.it/photogallery.php?film=21260

I work with an Italian woman, who heard the soundtrack in my car, and said "Oh! POOKIE!" Apparently the movie was very popular in Italy.

She went on to explain that they have such expert dubbing in Italian that they don't have to read subtitles when watching Hollywood (i.e. "foreign") movies there, but never have to suffer anything as ludicrous as our "Speed Racer" voices there, either. She told me they had an Italian voice-over who sounded exactly like Liza.

I was left pondering the irony that a woman named "Minnelli" had to be re-engineered to sound Italian.

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That's it! I have Liza's 45 rpm single "Come Saturday Morning" from Italy too, so the song made it over there also. Gotta find that Japanese edition with the bandaids over her mouth! :) hehe

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Not only that, but apparently the Japanese version includes Minnelli reciting the "Sterile Cuckoo" poem.

Translated from English to Japanese, then back to English via Google translator:

The movie the mouth you attach and there is a scene where poem of the [title?] is quoted in. The protagonist (doing from this name, with sigh so there is no girl) or ?
Is the sound which is unrelated to the declares facing toward him the cicely
which. It is in the ?
" In forest of high * hoe,
The parenthesis which does not bear the child - the bird has called. * & *
The parenthesis which does not bear the child - the bird dying keeps, * & *
Parenthesis - parenthesis - parenthesis -
in darkness of her heart of cartridge,
Always three o'clock of the dawn the time the announcement


http://www.geocities.jp/metropoleclub/movie/youga/3/kuchizuke/1.html

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I would kill for that...so watch out!! :p

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I keep checking eBay for memorabilia, but so far not much has turned up. Lobby cards and some stills (Liza getting on the bus at the end). I also checked on Liza 8-tracks, they have every one of hers but 'Coem Saturday Morning', which, if I'm not mistaken, was difficult to find even in the early 1970's!

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I actually had the "45". I played it into the dirt!LOL! Thanks again for the info, dessin59.

Bob

"The only person to celebrate Valentines Day the right way was Al Capone!". John Becker, M.D.

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CORRECTION CORRECTION CORRECTION

Having obtained the "second draft" of the TSC script, it is clear that I'm probably all wet about the TSC poem appearing in deleted scenes. It is not in the script at all. Unless it was an improvisation added as an afterthought and then cut as yet another afterthought, I'm afraid such a scene never existed. Sorry for the misinformation in these posts... that was based on leading comments from more than one source: the MIT student paper article, and the Japanese "Metropole Club" webpage.

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Now, here's a blooper so doctrinaire and pedantic, it'll take me several sentences merely to explain it. It regards an ironic comment made by Pookie during her argument with Jerry over her ostensible pregnancy; she says:

"...you can just forget you ever even knew me! It's a free country... I'll just plead Immaculate Conception."

It is apparent the scriptwriter, Sargent-- and probably even Minnelli herself, though she was, presumably, raised a Roman Catholic-- confuses the RCChurch doctrine of the Immaculate Conception with the virgin birth of Jesus Christ. Probably nearly all viewers of the movie, even the vast majority of practicing Catholics, are unaware that this is a misnomer.

It's like this: "Immaculate Conception" does not refer to the conception of JC, nor to any conception sans sexual intercourse. JC was not the person conceived in the Immaculate Conception... the Virgin Mary was! The theologians figured that, if Mary was to be the "Mother of God", then she had to stand apart from the normal run of human females in one critical way: she had to be free of Original Sin. So, they figured, her conception must be considered miraculous in that she was granted a special dispensation to be conceived without sin. However, no theologian ever meant to imply that Mary's parents didn't have sex the normal way in order to bring this Immaculate Conception about.

Hope that clears it up!

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_American_Actors

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Liza was on Larry king's chat show last night and displayed her thoughtfulness, enthusiasm and compassion for people in an exceptional hour. One of the more inane call-in questions however was from a girl who asked Liza if she was a Christian (not exactly the right forum for a religious discussion) and Liza very gracefully said, "Yes...I'm Episcopalian" (that shut the girl up, who promptly hung up). Only one caller mentioned "The Sterile Cuckoo" (a former grade school student from Liza's past who couldn't recall the name of the movie!) but it was still a very entertaining show.

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Thanks, Jon! I was curious about that show, as I only yesterday saw a listing for it on the TSC News link you posted... I appreciate your info!

BTW I apologize for my previous posting on the "immaculate conception" issue appear as if it was some sort of catechism or something... I've edited it down. It's difficult to even describe that blooper without sounding like a sermon or something!

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It was still an interesting thesis, and sort of turns that old adage around. I'm sure Alvin Sargent didn't mean to be so deep, and was likely just going for the sarcastic guffaw. I too saw Liza last night on CNN (twice! at 6pm and 9pm Pacific time) and found her full of rousing, good cheer. Her story about shopping for a gaudy blonde wig for a movie role and finding the type she wanted at a wig store--and only then that it was called the Andy Warhol!--was great, and so was her comment following this: "I thought, "Perfect!!"

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I too saw Liza last night on CNN (twice! at 6pm and 9pm Pacific time) and found her full of rousing, good cheer.

Wish I'd seen it. I truly don't understand the people who dislike her... sure, like me, not everyone goes for the big-production-number song-and-dance showbizzy stuff, but the woman herself seems very very lovable.

Back to her acting:

I'm wondering about the sneeze. When Pookie gets on the bus and starts manipulating the nuns, she says "excuse me a moment, Sister" then turns around and emits a sneeze which-- if it was scripted-- is the most convincing fake sneeze I've ever heard.

Was that sneeze scripted?

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THE MOST CONVINCING SNEEZE I'VE EVER HEARD!!!

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A quick phone call to the proprietress revealed that this is, indeed, the site of the Berkner's Honeymoon:

http://www.sylvanbeach.com/sunset/index.html

What kind of a dirty joke goes with a place like this?!?

The woman said it had always been called the "Sunset Cottages," but that the inexplicably-named "Oudin's Court" sign was hung for the shoot. Doubly inexplicable, because the novel calls the place "The Kozy Kabins" and the script designates "The Languid Arms." She also mentioned that the chapel is still standing, and is open weekdays after 10 a.m.

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A wonderful site for lovers of that movie. Thank you!! The pics are so sunny and warm-looking that I almost didn't recognize it!

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Wow, great thread! Thanks for all the insight.................and the time it took to add all the links, etc.

Good Times, Noodle Salad

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