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What age was Miss Brodie in her 'prime?'



Just wondering what age she is supposed to b. Love this film.

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I don't know an exact age, but I believe "prime" refers to the period from sexual awakening and marriageable age (18 and later) when life is full of options and a young woman can embrace what the world has to offer until those open doors begin to close. It's a time she can fall in love and marry and have children that ends with spinsterhood if she doesn't, and it's a time when she's still free rather than feeling a great pressure to settle down and like doors are closing (biological clock ticking and so on).

I think the character is supposed to be at the far end of her prime and perhaps even a bit past it, but in her mind she fools herself otherwise with her fanciful ideas.

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i'm thinking early thirties. those years before you're middle aged, after those years when men treat you as mere piece of meat.

i walked in beauty too, till i met you

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Maggie Smith was 35 when the film came out, but by the end of the film she is playing a woman in her forties.

On release (1969) forties would have seemed a lot older - these days 40s is nothing ad caling a person 'past their prime' doesn't have the saem ring now as then.

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Miss Brodie would have been in her forties during this period of the film. In the novel, I believe that Miss Brodie dies in 1946 from cancer, and I believe she died at age 51 or 56. I can't remeber which. Remember, she would have been a young woman before the first world war as illustrated by her 'relationship' with Hugh.

'The truth is rarely pure, and never simple' Oscar Wilde

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Jean said near the end of the film that she counted on her prime lasting until she was at least 50. She was in her late 30's to early 40's at the end of the film, based on her recollections about Hugh in WW1. Remember at that time, a woman was made to feel that she was no longer a sexual creature in her 40's, the other reason to put someone else in Teddy Lloyd's bed.

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I was wondering that too about this movie (when her "prime" was supposed to be). But did Miss Brodie ever express interest in getting married and having children? I'm probably missing the point completely because this WAS 1932 but still.

"In her prime" is such a subjective phrase nowadays. Yeah before it could refer to youth, beauty, fertility, whatever.. Now I think of someone "in their prime", I usually think intellectually, creatively or productively.

I really love this movie though.

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Remember that at this point in history, a female teacher who got married frequently got canned even if she wanted to continue teaching. The assumpeion of course that once a woman got married she'd want to start having children and taking care of her family. I've often wondered what happened to the science teacher who married the music master... home and babies, or was she somehow able to stay in her school lab?

A long time ago when I was in Junior High school, I had a teacher for art and English who was nearing retirement (we're talking late 60's here). It was only after she retired and went to work in a lab that I knew that she had a degree in chemistry, but when she was a young woman, nobody would hire a female science teacher, and she had to go back to school to be certified in art and English.

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Ideally she would have been 37 which is the universal age when women see 40 approaching and the end of their "fatal attraction", plus it is medically proven to be the absolute height of their "sexual desire".

I know all this from bitter personal experience so I am always on the lookout for it portrayed in movies.

the brilliant Catherine in Jules and Jim is a great example of the ultimate reaction.

All About Eve has Bette Davis playing a similar Margo Channing.

however the twist in this case is Jean is a fraud and her issue is she MISSED her Wild Oats in her youth [by playing the "I am a rock" prim and proper young gal "with her books and poetry to protect her".

so Hugh is a fabrication and Sandy [the totally shrewd one] works that out, AND the fact Jean is totally frigid [as Teddy found "you went to bed with an artist and were surprised when you woke up with a MAN"].

Jean lived a lie [npi] by laying with the stupid old mummy's boy Gordon, purely to annoy Teddy.

Sandy therefore TRUMPS her by laying with Teddy and then discarding him.

Sandy is everything Jean wishes SHE had been at 17 so tries to belittle her "sexuality" [not pronked back then] but for Sandy sex is simple ie you do it and enjoy it and NOT the tortuous path Jean took via her illusions of being there [with a white dress with poppies - lol] as Beatrice and Dante, but having missed that "Lolita moment" at 14 as she says, she projects her gals [BY PROXY] into "Dante's bed", even "sexing up" the platonic relationship of Dante and Beatrice and her age from 9 to 14 [and even the location] - "it happens" she pathetically protests and loses it in front of class.

then the very clever scene change from "A painter Miss Brodie" to Sandy showing exactly HOW to do it with Teddy, totally in control and more concerned [like Lolita] there was nothing to eat [a direct nod TO Kubrick's masterpiece].

it was so appropriate she played a role alongside Sue Lyon herself in 1977.

there is no doubt she would have qualified as one of Humbert's nymphets in 1965.

those lovely cherry pies!

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In the novel Miss Brodie herself stated her Prime had begun when she was 40 and expected it to last until she was 60.

The Long Walk stops every year, just once.

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