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Why didn't Miss Brodie have an affair with the art teacher?


Seeing as they both loved each other, I've always been a bit puzzled as to why Jean was so determined to keep her distance from Teddy Lloyd. I doubt it was that he was married, seeing as she had no problems encouraging him to sleep with Jennie. The best reason I can think of is that she knew she would never be able to dominate him, and her egotism couldn't handle this.

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Her vanity maybe for another reason. He was down to earth man, and she had heard enough of rude and merciless words from him, because he was mostly calling a spade a spade.

Jean couldn't stand simple truth. She was living in the world of imagined, so called heroes, but hardly could choose well. She decided fashists were or would be in future the heroes. Well, I think many people rushed in the illusion in 20 and 30-ies. Before the real war begun.

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I posted it somewhere else here, but here's the gist. Brodie had a one night stand with Teddy but apparently found him too crude for her tastes. I don't think she respected him much either because she sneers at his over zealous breeding of children and his Catholic faith.

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I think gorye nailed it. She was the perfect example of a frigid romantic... All talk, but couldnt face the "messiness" of carnal love.

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My city in the 30's was a prim and proper place.
It is still called, "East windy, West Endy"!

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I think gorye nailed it. She was the perfect example of a frigid romantic... All talk, but couldnt face the "messiness" of carnal love.

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exactly right, she was totally frigid having missed out on her wild oats [as Sandy cunningly shows her [a la Lolita] how simple sex is].

obviously there never WAS a Hugh.

He was willing to "forgive" her "late bloomer" status but her whole existence depended on being a Control Freak, which is why she chose teaching as she could bully the young gals as her servants.

she knew that TEDDY knew all that so there could be no possibilities there, so she in turn used stupid old Gordon to try to wield her control.

I remember in the theatre in 1969 [Oz] when she actually TELLS Sandy her prime has ended that there was cheering as if at a footie game - the same as when Brando finally dies in that horrible "Oh My Godfather" movie of the same time.

ding dong the witch is dead

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She was the perfect example of a frigid romantic... All talk, but couldnt face the "messiness" of carnal love.


But when the girls find her nightgown under Mr. Lawther's pillow at Cramond and giggle about it, we understand Miss Brodie is carrying on a physical relationship with him. This doesn't strike me as "frigid".


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Teddy was too wild and passionate and also freer.

Its that man again!!

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Because Teddy was disgusting, she just played with him I Think.

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Who cares why Miss Brodie didn't carry on with Mr. Lloyd. She was such a dreamer, perhaps narcissistic, (and a tease) but he was the one everyone should have been cautious of. Did it escape everyone's notice that he was the immoral one? He should have been tossed in jail for sex abuse of minors.

I found it curious when Sandy told Miss Brodie that she was "dangerous and unwholesome and children should not be exposed to her", yet nobody batted an eyelash about the art teacher's illegal and predatory behavior. Or is fiddling with underage children acceptable in Scotland? The creepy thing is how he was calling her a "little girl" while lecherously nibbling on her - Wth

Btw, even if she was old enough- how inappropriate that a married man with 6 children should be panting after anyone - let alone a student. Yuck. Reminds me of my own disgusting, filthy orchestra teacher. Gag.

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I think Jean would have preferred to be his wife and not his mistress. Since he was already married, she couldn't have him completely. It's why she keeps Mr Lowther at bay - because she wants to be married to Teddy. She doesn't want to be the 'bit on the side', she wants to be chosen. Or else she might have wanted Jenny to have the affair in her place and then she would marry Lowther so she would have both men at last.

I think Sandy got that Miss Brodie was more dangerous than Teddy because she was the one taking these girls under her wing and giving them dangerous ideas. She was in a position of power over the girls - and her influence had led to Mary running off and getting killed. Not that I'm defending Teddy, but he didn't regularly abuse his students. As far as we know, Sandy was the only one he had an affair with - and she would not have been too far off the marrying age. But it was the 1930s and such things were usually gotten away with. Sandy might also have been thinking of his wife and children - who would have to endure the scandal if he was exposed.

Sandy clearly saw Teddy as nothing more than a pathetic excuse for a man who was insignificant, but she saw Jean as someone who could cause a lot more harm.

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Sandy would have been over the age of consent by then.

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She didn’t continue the involvement bc she couldn’t control him, as she could Lowthar. She’s a total narcissist, drawn to those she could dominate, captivate - like her girls, or the music teacher. Teddy Lloyd didn’t fall into that category.

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