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THANK YOU for your service


Regardless of your feelings about the movie, or the wars we fought in S.E. Asia, theres nothing controversial or questionable about our debt to those who served in our countries defense.

Thank you for your service.

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Well said.

Our vets didn't get the reception or care they deserved when they returned home, but it is a great thing to care for them now when we can.

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LovingBooks,

Although your comment is kind and supportive toward Vietnam veterans, I would respectfully take issue with the contention that they didn't receive the reception and care they deserved.

The reception upon their return from Vietnam was certainly *different* from that of returnees from earlier conflicts, but that was a function of the prevailing mode of travel for troops in the '60s and early '70s, versus 1918, 1945/46, and 1953. Troops returning from Vietnam were transported home one Boeing 707 at a time, to any of numerous arrival airports or bases, several per day, day-in day-out, week after week, month after month, year after year. In stark contrast, previous wars' troops were largely transported home by means of cruise ships, leased by the Government, and crammed with as many as 15,000 troops per ship. Each ship was presumably met by thousands of relatives and friends. Vietnam veterans, on the other hand, took one or two days on a military base to muster out, then individually made their own way home by airline or whatever means they chose. (In my case, I was immediately bumped up to first class by the TWA stewardesses and was treated like a king.)

As to the nature of their reception by their countrymen, you'll find these boards littered with third-hand anecdotal claims of abusive treatment upon their return, including allegations of having been spat-upon and called baby-killers and the like. Please don't fall for this nonsense. There is ZERO supporting proof of any such incidents. Anyone claiming knowledge of someone else's experience is invariably citing vague details heard from someone who'd heard it from someone else, and their charges are laughably devoid of specifics. The few times I've spoken to someone claiming a first-hand experience with mistreatment, a few well-formed follow-up questions caused their stories to fold like a house of cards, and they slinked away much like today's stolen-valor slugs.

Prospective employers typically were receptive to considering Vietnam veterans for jobs, assuming the applicants were smart enough to bathe, shave, cut their hair, and dress appropriately.

As for the care veterans received, I can best point to my own experience. While in college, I suffered two malaria relapses. At the college clinic, I was treated with warmth and concern while I was there. I was quickly transported to the local VA Medical Center, where medical personnel were familiar with the proper malaria treatment regimen. Their facility was a bit on the Spartan side, but it was clean, well-equipped, and staffed with competent, kind, devoted and attentive medical, nursing and support professionals. I know that, today, the VA has serious issues; but, in 1970, they were top-notch. (Oh, and my college professors could not have been more supportive and accommodating in getting me back up to speed after my 12- and 10-day absences from their classes.)

Now, will naysayers and contrarians come out of the woodwork and post vitriolic arguments to the contrary? Undoubtedly. Just take their divisive drivel with a grain of salt.

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Funny Post

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Doesn't make a rats ass your views on the war (any war) or why we were there. There is no need to hold it against the men and women sent there to fight and follow the orders of others. You can be thankful of them willing to do so and if you don't like the reasons take it up with the dirt bags elected to office that send them.

Its old and worn out but stands true, if you don't want to stand behind our soldiers then feel free to stand in front of them.

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Some day, years from now, you will by at death's door. You will look back on a life during which you committed nothing to society beyond that for which you were paid in cash or in kind. You will realize that you never gave your life, your fortune, or your sacred honor to the defense or the expansion of a cause in which you believed. Then you will sorry that you never made a real commitment.

We do not blindly follow orders. We constantly second guess, not our leaders but our own commitment.

If you think that efforts in Southeast Asia were a crime, then you are far more blind than the most simple minded idiotic follower of Ho Chi Minh that wandered the jungles of Viet Nam.

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If you think that efforts in Southeast Asia were a crime, then you are far more blind than the most simple minded idiotic follower of Ho Chi Minh that wandered the jungles of Viet Nam.


I think those efforts were a crime, and soldiers, whether willing or not (drafted or enlisted) are accessories in the perpetration of that crime. They are not deserving of my or anyone else's thanks just because we all know now there was no justification for our presence there and the politicians and Joint Chiefs of Staff who put them there are morally culpable, but that the soldiers themselves were serving their country. Making a commitment to a dubious cause that then becomes outright immoral does not make for a life well spent.

So, how does saying so make me more blind than the most simple minded idiotic follower of Ho Chi Minh?


Democracy is the pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H.L. Mencken

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The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank.

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uscmd: I accept your thanks.

But, as for neo71665, who said:
if you don't want to stand behind our soldiers then feel free to stand in front of them.

Uh, practically speaking-- what the hell does that mean?

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