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why did custer have an irish accent?


Why did Custer have an Irish accent in this movie?

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I can't find any record of him having any Irish background. Shaw did a similarly poor Irish accent in Jaws - maybe it was a little actorly thing he did, thinking it brought "character" to the role.

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Custer's mother was of Irish descent (not sure how many generations her family had been in the US, she may have been born in Ireland herself; her maiden name was Ward). Custer himself was born in Ohio and grew up in Michigan.

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Mr. Shaw was Irish, but Custer was an upper-middle class American! I think this movie was an Anglophile plot to blame the Irish for Custer's shortcomings! Was a terrible movie too, almost as bad as that terrible '60s TV series of the man!

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Actually Shaw is English. He did die in Ireland though.

And how would it be an Anglophile (lover of the English or England) plot? Custer was from the US, unless it's because his mother is ethnically English (being from Count Durham, not as a previous poster stated Ireland), but even then I am not sure if he would consider himself English or be considered English by most US Americans as they are generally Anglophobic (for the odd reason that they rebelled against Britain, the same 'entity' that denies England's existence)!

And the accent did not sound Irish in the slightest to me, it actually sounded more Cornish, which to many English folk sounds American for some reason!

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Custer might had sounded Cornish because Shaw was born in Lancashire but grew up in the south west of England.

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"I think this movie was an Anglophile plot to blame the Irish for Custer's shortcomings! Was a terrible movie too, almost as bad as that terrible '60s TV series of the man!"

That was a joke, right?

Actually, it was a US plot to make Custer a non-American loser; Americans CANNOT be massacred by Native Americans.


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...Americans CANNOT be massacred by Native Americans...


Nor be beaten by illiterate Vietnamese peasants, yet EVERY Vietnam war movie shows the Americans WINNING.

Hamburger Hill
Go Tell the Spartans
Platoon
Apocalypse Now
We Were Soldiers


Have the Americans forgotten that they lost and got their holy asses kicked in that one?


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I don't think Apocalypse Now shows the N.Americans winning at all . Don't you remember the bridge at night scene ? And Colonel Kurtz being in charge of an unbeatable indigenous jungle army ? The horror - THE HORROR .

That which does not Kill me makes me Stranger

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Have you even seen those movies? Go Tell the Spartans has all but one of the GIs killed at the end. We Were Soldiers was about the Battle of Ia Drang, which was claimed as a victory by both sides, and despite the heavy casualties and subsequent abandonment of the hill, the battle for Hamburger Hill was regarded as a victory for the American forces. Neither was made to look easy. Platoon, and Apocalypse Now aren't exactly flag-waving morale boosters, either. America did win a lot of battles, despite losing the war. Mismanagement.

Or are we still joking? It's hard to tell sometimes.

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Because his REAL name was George Armstrong O'Custer!
Seriously, why does this sort of thing bother viewers? Do we question why there are cameras recording his every move when there were none there in reality? Do we question his every utterance because there is no proof he actually said such words?
Look up the term "suspension of belief" as it regards theater, movies, etc.

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Custer's paternal ancestry would have been English or German, I think. I don't think that has ever been settled. In any case his ancestors on that side were in the USA long enough to count him as an American, for better and for worse.

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So they could explain Dull Knife (played by Kieron Moore) having an Irish accent?

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