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Aparently there were enough naive boobs watching teevee then (as ever) who were taken in by the "new" flashy style, which is no more than a caotic bastardization of what The Monkees were doing years earlier, which is in itself a ripoff of the Dick Lester and Spike Milligan style pioneered in the UK (and carried on to the Goon Show and Monty Python's...).

This show is pop culture slang and poseing at it's lamest. Whenever they tried to present anything political or topical, they came off looking like Bob Hope impersonating Fonzie.
What really hurts is to see truely talented people involved in the show; particularly some of the better guest stars (like Lily Tomlin, Harry Belafonte, Debbie Reynolds, Danny Kaye, James Garner, et alia).
The best I can say for the show is that it didn't completetly rob such talents of their dignity, as it did lessor talents.


For a beautiful, 'with it', contemporanious show of that era -that doesn't look dated or dumb!- look no further than the enormous contrast of 'The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour'.
The Smothers's, Steve Martin, Bob Einstein, and best of all - Mason Williams! These guys ran infinate laps 'round the dull 'Laugh-In' tosh, making it look easy.
And as a bonus, they had a political conscience and never backed down from their convictions, never looked like lames or posers, which is what most of the 'Laugh-In' jokers were. With a few notable exceptions, like Ruth Buzzi, who outclassed this show by a Wyoming mile all the time.
The Smothers's gave their guests and writers a meaningfil freedom, not merely an Anything (and Everything Goes) ethic. As Buster Keaton put it, comedy is a serious business. And you need to know what you've got to say before you blurt it out tactlessly.
No real change or improvment can come from reckless trendiness.

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Get a life!

Celebrating 70 years over the rainbow!

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Yes, I like Elliott's Get a Life! much more. One of the 90's best cult shows.

I just wanted to say, I'm sorry I threw rocks at you that day. - Dirk Calloway

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Well, who peed in YOUR Cheerios this morning?

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Yo momma!

Celebrating 70 years over the rainbow!

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My comments were aimed at the one who started this thread...not you, jr.

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Sorry!

Celebrating 70 years over the rainbow!

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No worries! It's easy to lose the lead in a given thread.

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...said the twit to the twat.

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uuhhh .. . yo-yo Ma!

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I don't eat Cheerios, but if it was the right persons urine, that'd be better than cow milk in my cereal.

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Come now, how can you NOT find the Farkle Family funny?

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but it's a mainstream media sociopolitical document for the time.

I mean, seriously. It is. But instead of resisting it, watch it in a certain context.


If I ever view it again, I'll watch it in the same cultural context as this:
http://www.thelightsight.com/thoughts/monk.jpg
and this:
http://bigotblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/nick_611_21.jpg

...and possibly this:
http://thatsgay.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/liberace1.jpg

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I forgot about that character. Of course, there's always exceptions, blind spots one misses when dashing off a poison-letter of depreciation to a TV show better left forgotten. Not that it's not pleasant to recall some of the rare better bits, naturally.
Too bad I waited so long to reply, but IMDb never gives me email notifications for this account.

I just wanted to say, I'm sorry I threw rocks at you that day. - Dirk Calloway

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Not a "fanboy", not trying to tear down another show I dislike, only trying to point in a direction of an entertainment that is better suited to adults.

Clearly no amount of soapbox arm waving can redirect you from your course.

I just wanted to say, I'm sorry I threw rocks at you that day. - Dirk Calloway

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Hey Cloak Swaddler! How old were you when Laugh-in originally aired?
You were either middle-aged or didn't see this until it was in reruns on cable.
It was very contemporanious to the times it was originally broadcast. We were in the middle of the Vietnam war, and civil rights movements, with protests everyday, and being groovy, hip, mod. This was a fun diversion, nothing more. Even Nixon and Spiro appeared on the show.
I also enjoyed the Smothers Brother's, but that was a different type of show, like the Everly Bros. show, and Carol Burnett.
May the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate fly up your .......

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Glad to hear you remember the time so well. I guess by Robin Williams' definition that means you weren't really there.
I didn't see it original airing (I would have been Negative-Eleven then) or on re-runs. I rented the DVD's, and barely got through'em.
Sure, "fun diversion, nothing more", something to do when strung out. It may have seemed inventive, if one missed Dick Lester movies and thought they were too hip for that teenybopper show 'The Monkees'.

Guys in suits buying used girl panties in vending machines. How is that okay?

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To the OP... So, let me get this straight. You're not only dissing the show, but the people who watched it when it first ran? And you're how old? Oh, not even born yet? This means that you're watching a show made in the 60's from a 21st century perspective. Is that right?

I'm sure that when that show was made in the late 60's, it was done with contemporary audiences and current events in mind and not for someone watching it 40 years later. It's a show that you have to take in the time and the context to appreciate.

I was there during it's first run, and it's something we looked forward to watching. There was nothing else on TV like it. Smother's Brothers was good too, but it wasn't as fast paced as Laugh-In.

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to the OP: i pretty much agree with you. laugh-in was "bubblegum" tv: very tasty at first, but the flavor was soon gone. it was dated by the time of the summer re-runs, almost.

but it was hugely influential to the culture at large, the only thing i ever saw in my life penetrate american life faster than laugh in was the beatles. it took about 2-3 weeks for everyone to start quoting the show, the beatles totally infiltrated in one night.

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>"i pretty much agree with you. laugh-in was "bubblegum" tv: very tasty at first, but the flavor was soon gone. it was dated by the time of the summer re-runs, almost. "<

I should have just said something like that, and left out the extra venum and comparisons.

>>"but it was hugely influential to the culture at large, the only thing i ever saw in my life penetrate american life faster than laugh in was the beatles. it took about 2-3 weeks for everyone to start quoting the show, the beatles totally infiltrated in one night. "<<

You make good points. But I'm afraid the influence was negative in the case of 'Laugh In'. The contemporary comparison would be...what? Maybe 'American Idol' - for being an almost overnight sensation. There has never been anything in pop music since the Beatles to compare them to.
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The show IS a mainstream (or, rather, mainstream-trying-hard-to-be-swinging-and-hip) socio/political/popculture/showbiz document of its time period. A time capsule, if you will. And it DOES have truly funny moments. So, for those of us who were around in the late '60s-- I was seven when it started-- it does have some value. (Granted, the only episode I've seen in decades is the 25th-anniversary special, which I taped off the air in '93, and that may be enough for me. Then again...)

So the players "look like Bob Hope trying to be Fonzie" when making political points? Well, I would point to, for example, Dan Rowan's "Fickle Finger of Fate" segments-- in one of them, seen on the 25th-anniversary compilation, he was taking dead aim at Pentagon overspending on unnecessary billion-dollar (corporate) weapons projects, with lots of specifics-- which, at the time, probably did not please the NBC corporate suits one bit. I get the impression that Rowan had some of the most deeply felt political views on the show, or at least was in a powerful enough position there that he could openly express them. And by the way, other than Laugh-In and the Smothers Brothers, there were NOT many comedy shows in the late '60s (nor many American network entertainment shows of ANY kind) that would ever explicitly criticize the Pentagon and its corporate enablers or call for the Vietnam war to end! You may not realize that such things were not at all common on ABC, NBC, or CBS in those days-- not by a long shot. It was a completely different television era. No Jon Stewart, no Colbert, no Democracy Now. No cable networks-- just the Big Three and, in some places, NET (predecessor of PBS). So when Laugh-in went after topical issues, it could, as a top-rated show, have a real effect on viewer opinion. Not that they were some great voice of radicalism, but they did take some chances, not always playing it as safe as they COULD have.

I'm glad the OP has backed away somewhat from the initial post, because that rant reminded me of some of the hipper-than-thou, more-politically-committed-than-thou screeds I used to read in the '80s, in the British music press and the Village Voice, until finally I got fed up with all the sneering, self-righteous, self-satisfied attacks that seemed intended to build up the prestige of the writers at the expense of their targets, and at the expense of any kind of fairness or reasonable perspective.

Does Laugh-In seem dated? Well, uh, yeah. And so does the Smothers Brothers show in some ways. But does anybody think the people who made those shows ever imagined we would be watching them on DVDs and downloads almost 45 years later?!

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urgeking, I don't know what some people expect this show to be....like you said, if you wanted to watch anything that even REMOTELY gave the finger to the powers that be, it was this or the SB show. Dated? Yeah, it is.....what a shocker! So is a '57 Chevy convertible; does this mean that the remaining examples shoud be crushed, and the owners ordered to buy a Prius to replace it?

No one has to like "Laugh-In", but they should at least appreciate it for what it made possible in the way of TV entertainment, in much the same way that had there been no Elvis, there would have been no Beatles, and had there been no Lenny Bruce, there would have been no George Carlin, etc. The only way "Laugh-In" could get away with some of the things it said was to do so in an extremely silly and absurd form, in the same vein of TZ and Star Trek being able to make statements concerning topics like racism as long at was done in an supernatural or intergalactic setting, or on earth but in a parallel dimension.

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