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Don't Get The Criterion DVD..... Yet!


Criterion is going to re-release Playtime
in a double-disc edition soon,
since the 1 disc version went out of print a
while back.

People are still paying a large amount
for this DVD, yet the results are.... not stunning

first off: Criterion is the 120 minute cut, not the 155 minute
that still exists.

the sound was mono, yet it was a 6 track stereo when
it was released.

Criterion is clearing all this up
by releasing a New improved 155 cut
and a new [possibly] 5.1 or 6.1 surround track

let's see how it turns out later this year.

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Any word on the aspect ratio? Will it be 1.85:1 or 70mm??

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the film was originally presented in 70mm...so there you go.

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70 mm is not an aspect ratio, it is the width of the film. 70mm is superior to the normal 35mm film because it results in four times the surface area for each frame, meaning vastly greater resolution. That has nothing to do with aspect ratio, which is the shape of that frame. You can have 35mm or 70mm films of any aspect ratio.

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where did you come by this info?

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It was on the Criterion website quite a while ago when they announced the reissues of Holiday and Mon Oncle, that a deluxe edition of Playtime and Jour De Fete would be released on Criterion.

even dvdbeaver expressed concerns that the framing was incorrect on the original Criterion disc, and much footage was missing, compared to the french dvd.

Recently Playtime was screened in its original 155 minute runtime on 70mm format in 6-track surround, after extensive reconstruction.

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In the UK, BFI video are releasing Playtime in September and I hear that it is a fantastic edition with great extras, including a fabulous commentary which is what this amazing movie needs. I love this film. I can't wait for the DVD!

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Do you guys have any idea when this new Criterion Double Disc DVD will be coming out in North America. I live in Canada but when ever the States get something, we usually get it on the same day. So does anyone have any idea?? I own Mr. Hulot's Holiday and Mon Oncle but I can't find the cancelled Playtime anywhere and I NEED IT!!!!!

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The newly-restored 70mm print is 125 minutes. The original version was 155 minutes, but those cuts are now lost forever. See details on the restoration here:
http://www.in70mm.com/news/2003/playtime/restoration.htm

Criterion is in fact working on a release based on the restoration, but there's no word on release dates yet. The latest info I could find is from 2/18/2004. Lee Kline, Criterion's technical director, says this:
"The lowdown on PLAYTIME is complicated. Scanning 70mm material has numerous problems...The machines that can do it are not all that great, and there are only a few in the world. Most facilities have souped up machines that they've created themselves to do the job. For instance, in the case of SPARTACUS, I spoke with Bob Harris about the idea that transferring a 35mm IP on a good machine as opposed to a large format element on a not so good machine might be better. We're going to do some tests on PLAYTIME. More to come on this one."


Ideally, this is something you should see on the big screen in 70mm, because DVDs simply don't have the resolution to accommodate the detail you get on 70mm.

Also, someone else mentioned the BFI release. It also appears to be based on the new restoration, with a runtime of 125 minutes, and it will be released on September 6:
http://www.bfi.org.uk/videocat/more/tati/index.html?PHPSESSID=e56c0727e55109fdefaf2fd4ad4d0d65

Finally, both the 70mm print and 35mm copies are playing at various locations in the US over the next few months. It opens today at the Music Box in Chicago and it's at the Rafael Film Center in SF from September 24-26. Presumably, it will go elsewhere as well (hopefully Boston!).

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Well, I got the BFI disc today, and as fgar as extras, like the BFI's disappointing The Leopard (a miserly one-disc edition with only brief Cardinale interview, single trailer and commentary) and fairly half-hearted single-disc Le Cercle Rouge, it's a fair bet Criterion will come up with the much better package. It's okay but not exceptional - audio commentary by Philip Kemp, a couple of short documentaries, an interview with the continuity girl and trailers for the film as well as Les Vacandes de M. Hulot and Mon Oncle. The film is 1.85:1 and the 126-minute version.

My advice is to wait and see what's on the Criterion.


"Gentlemen, is this a great moment or a small one? I'm afraid I don't know."

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I can't wait for this to come out either!

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I am *so* glad I saw the full length original on big screen in the early 70's! Little did I know at that time that a film a wonderful as this would be chopped up and the subject of controversy.

The Detroit Institute of Arts had a Tati 'festival' and screened all of his major films over a period of weeks. Their projection system is state of the art with the screen properly masked and the level of detail was stunning. I'd bet Tati himself would have enjoyed viewing his masterpiece in that there!

BTW, I laughed more at Mon Oncle, but feel that Playtime is a more mature work of cinematic art. I just wish I could see it again as Tati intended it to be.

FWIW!

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