who is who?
all right bettlemaniacs, heres a good one...
who is the whale?
First of all, it's a walrus. Despite the white album's Glass Onion saying "the walrus is Paul," the walrus is John. Paul is the hippo, George is the bunny-rabbit, and the chicken thing is Ringo...How do I know? simple, in the MMT LP booklet, it shows them playing their instruments, George on guitar, Paul on bass, Ringo on drums, and John on the piano. (Plus common sense would suggest John as the walrus because he sings "I Am The Walrus.")
Luv,
A true Beatlemaniac..
"All You Need Is Love"
You say John is the walrus because he sings "I am the walrus", but as you mention, he also says in Glass Onion "the walrus was Paul". So it's deliberate ambiguity, right? Why believe one song over another?
Maybe we're meant to think the walrus used to be Paul, but now it's John. And that is meant to provoke us into wondering what being the walrus means. Personally, I think they were just toying with their fans. They did think it was quite hilarious that fans were reading messages into their work that lead them to believe Paul was dead ("I buried Paul" where John actually says "cranberry sauce", Paul barefoot on the cover of Abbey Road, etc).
And given that they (or at least John) want to be ambiguous about who actually is the walrus, why would you believe that each Beatle would be photographed playing the right instruments in the booklet? Why not believe that they are deliberately shown playing the wrong instruments?
If you look carefully, the "chicken (?)" has Lennon's glasses and seems to look like his mouth.
The sleeve says
"I am the Walrus
("no your not" said Little Nicola)
John Lennon-Paul McCartney"
Very good points, I can see the Beatles doing just that to screw the rest of us up. It is great fun to confuse people...
Have you read "Billy Shears: The Secret History of the Beatles"? If you're interested in the "Paul is Dead" conspiracy, you should...
peace,
Me
I suspect it is NOT Paul or John. Lennon sang "I am the Walrus" when it seems like it wasn't him, (as I said before glasses are on the chicken, and the cover has a comment "No you arn't" under the song)
Most people are expecting the Walrus to be either Paul or John, the frontmen, since the Walrus is in front of the rest of the Beatles. But, wouldn't it be something they would do to put either Ringo Starr or George Harrison up there, as they usally where in Lennon and McCartney's shadow?
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"The Black Walrus is not a symbol of death. Name one country where it's the symbol of death!"
I read it in a Paul Is Dead book i have and ive read somewhere that it is a Scandinavian death symbol, thought im not quite sure where. LOL. Some cultures believe it in.
In the song god john lennon said i was the walrus but now i am john. So its a pretty good chance hes the walrus. Also goo goo g'joob was supposedly the last words humpty dumpty said before his great fall. And the whole paul being dead. All a way john could toy with people. John is a genius. He was really into lewis carrol and things like through the looking glass. Like im looking through you. But he could write a song and have people thinking about it. I mean look people still talking about it almost 40 years later. And noone is 100% right about any of it. John had that ability. And its horrible that he was killed. R.I.P john . if you wanna look more inot clues about paul being dead hoax this is a very good informative site.
http://www.kirkco.org/walrus
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A glass onion is a coffin with a clear top? Where did you get that from? Is that on the website you mention?
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We have to remember, that the song "I am the Walrus" was written by Lennon because he was tired of fans over analyzing every song he wrote. Therefore he wrote the song to confuse fans. He said to a friend after writing it, "There, let them work on that one for a while."
He then wrote Glass Onion, again to confuse fans. He was getting a kick on how well "I am the Walrus" worked. I don't think that "I am the Walrus" or "Glass Onion" can really be used as a clue on who is who.
John Lennon would be getting a kick out of this thread, this is what he would've wanted, over 30 years after the song was released and we are still trying to figure it out.
I figured out the song long ago. Now I'm trying to figure out the fans, which is much more difficult a task ;)
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In "God," John does sing: I was the Walrus, but now I'm John.
shareThe National Lampoon had a dead-on nasty Plastic Ono Band-era Lennon parody on their first record album...as he rants on about everything that pisses him off, at one point he shouts "*I* was the walrus!!! Paul wasn't the walrus!!! I was just saying that to be nice but *I* was actually the walrus!!!! D'you hear that rubbish he's playing? HE'S NOT A MAN, HE'S AN ANIMAL!!! A *beep* STUPID MIDDLE CLASS PIG!!! I WON'T LET *beep* ANIMALS LIKE THAT NEAR ME!!! and so on...
shareI Am the Walrus is one of my favorite Beatles (Lennon) songs... However, what is the deal with the awful production for the last verse and the end of the song. The Anthology DVD version corrects this, check it out!
"I thought you would like to be the first to know, We've got the tapes!"
George on guitar, Paul on bass, Ringo on drums, and John on the piano.
On the White album. Paul played drums,& piano on a few songs.George played bass on couple songs. On the George Harrison music video When we was Fab, Paul
was in a Walrus suit.
"I Am the Walrus" is a 1967 song by The Beatles, written by John Lennon and credited to Lennon/McCartney.[1] Lennon claimed he wrote the first two lines on separate acid trips.[2] The song was in the Beatles' 1967 television film and album Magical Mystery Tour, and was the B-side to the #1 hit "Hello, Goodbye".
Lennon composed the avant-garde song by combining three songs he had been working on. When he learned that a teacher at his old primary school was having his students analyze Beatles' lyrics, he added a verse of nonsense words.[3] Music critic Ian MacDonald argued that the song represented Lennon's creative high water mark with the Beatles.
The walrus is a reference to the walrus in Lewis Carroll's "The Walrus and the Carpenter" (from the book Through the Looking-Glass). Lennon expressed dismay that the walrus was the villain in the poem.
The genesis of the lyrics is found in three song ideas that Lennon was working on, the first of which was inspired by hearing a police siren at his home in Weybridge; Lennon wrote the lines "Mis-ter cit-y police-man" to the rhythm of the siren. The second idea was a short rhyme about Lennon sitting in his garden, while the third was a nonsense lyric about sitting on a corn flake. Unable to finish the ideas as three different songs, he combined them into one.
Lennon received a letter from a pupil at Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended. The writer mentioned that the English master was making his class analyse Beatles lyrics (Lennon wrote an answer, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992). Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting so much effort into understanding Beatles lyrics, wrote the most confusing lyric he could. Lennon's friend and former fellow member of The Quarrymen, Peter Shotton, was visiting, and Lennon asked Shotton about a playground nursery rhyme they sang as children.
Shotton remembered:
"Yellow matter custard, green slop pie,
All mixed together with a dead dog's eye,
Slap it on a butty, ten foot thick,
Then wash it all down with a cup of cold sick".[4]
Lennon borrowed a couple of words, added the three unfinished ideas and the result was "I Am the Walrus". Beatles official biographer Hunter Davies was present while the song was being written and wrote an account in his 1968 book on the band. Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let the *beep* work that one out."[5]
All the chords are major chords or seventh chords, and all the musical letters of the alphabet (A, B, C, D, E, F and G) are used. The song ends with a chord progression built on ascending and descending lines in the bass and strings, repeated over and over as the song fades. Musicologist Alan W. Pollack analyses: "The chord progression of the outro itself is a harmonic Moebius strip with scales in bassline and top voice that move in contrary motion."[6] The bassline descends stepwise A, G, F, E, D, C, and B, while the strings' part rises A, B, C, D, E, F#, G: this sequence repeats as the song fades, with the strings rising higher on each iteration. Pollack also notes that the repeated cell is seven bars long, which means that a different chord begins each four-bar phrase.
The line "See how they fly like Lucy in the sky" refers to Lennon's psychedelic song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds from Sgt. Pepper.
Lennon explained much of the song to Playboy in 1980:[2]
"The first line was written on one acid trip one weekend. The second line was written on the next acid trip the next weekend, and it was filled in after I met Yoko. Part of it was putting down Hare Krishna. All these people were going on about Hare Krishna, Allen Ginsberg in particular. The reference to "Elementary penguin" is the elementary, naive attitude of going around chanting, "Hare Krishna", or putting all your faith in any one idol. I was writing obscurely, a la Dylan, in those days."
"It never dawned on me that Lewis Carroll was commenting on the capitalist and social system. I never went into that bit about what he really meant, like people are doing with the Beatles' work. Later, I went back and looked at it and realised that the walrus was the bad guy in the story and the carpenter was the good guy. I thought, Oh, *beep* I picked the wrong guy. I should have said, 'I am the carpenter.' But that wouldn't have been the same, would it? [Singing] 'I am the carpenter....'"
Some have speculated that the opening line, "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together", is a parody of the opening line of "Marching to Pretoria", by the Weavers: "I'm with you and you're with me and we are all together." [7]
The song also contains the exclamation goo goo g'joob. Various hypotheses exist regarding the origin and meaning. One is that the phrase was derived from the similar "koo koo ka choo" in Simon and Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson, written in 1967. However, the film The Graduate, where "Mrs. Robinson" debuted, did not appear until December 1967, a month after "I Am the Walrus", and The Graduate Original Soundtrack (which contained only fragments of the final version of "Mrs Robinson") was not until January 1968.
James Joyce's Finnegans Wake contains the words googoo goosth at the top of page *557, where it appears:
...like milk-juggles as if it was the wrake of the hapspurus or old Kong Gander O'Toole of the Mountains or his googoo goosth she seein, sliving off over the sawdust lobby out of the backroom, wan ter, that was everywans in turruns, in his honeymoon trim, holding up his fingerhals...
It is not clear that Joyce is the source, or what it would mean if he were, but it has been a hypothesis put forward by fans of both artists.[8]
Another theory about the phrase's origin is that goo goo g'joob were the last words of Humpty Dumpty before he died [9]
The unusual monologue in the mix towards the end of the song is a few lines of Shakespeare's King Lear (Act IV, Scene VI), which were added to the song direct from an AM radio receiving the broadcast of the play on the BBC Home Service (or possibly the BBC Third Programme).[5] The bulk of the audible dialogue, heard in the fade, is the death scene of the character Oswald (including the words, "O untimely Death! Death!"); this is just one additional piece of the Paul is Dead urban legend.
The basic backing track of "I Am the Walrus" featuring the Beatles was released in 1996 on Anthology 2. George Martin arranged and added orchestral accompaniment that included violins, cellos, horns, clarinet and a 16-piece choir. Paul McCartney said that Lennon gave instructions to Martin as to how he wished the orchestration to be scored, including singing most of the parts as a guide. A large group of professional studio vocalists named "The Mike Sammes Singers", took part in the recording as well, variously singing "Ho-ho-ho, hee-hee-hee, ha-ha-ha", "oompah,oompah, stick it up your jumper!", "got one, got one, everybody's got one" and making a series of shrill whooping noises.[10]
The original 1967 stereo mix of the record has an interesting twist: At almost exactly two minutes into the song, the mix changes from regular stereo to "fake stereo", with most of the bass on one channel, and most of the treble on the other. The mix appears to 'wander' sonically in the fadeout, from left to right. The reason for the change in mixes was that the radio broadcast was inserted during the mono mixdown. The U.S. mono single mix also includes an extra bar of music before the words "yellow matter custard" - an early, overdub-free mix of the song released on The Beatles Anthology 2 reveals John singing the lyrics "Yellow mat - " too early; this was edited out. The mono version opens with a four-beat chord while stereo mix features six beats on the initial chord.
In 2003, the first-ever stereo mix of the song (except for the intro) was included as part of the soundtrack for the DVD release of The Beatles Anthology.
In 2006, the first-ever stereo mix of the complete song (from beginning to end, including the formerly "fake stereo" second half) was issued on the Beatles' album Love.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_the_Walrus
"Make love not war"
Well, if you look closely, then you will see, that the walrus is John. I saw it.
shareI read an interview with John once in which he said that when he wrote 'I am the walrus', he was referring to the walrus from 'The Walrus and the Carpenter" from 'Alice in Wonderland'. It wasn't until later that he realised that the walrus was NOT a good guy. It was after this that he referred to Paul as being the walrus in 'glass onion'. Not that they didn't get along or anything.... :)
shareKimlo is right about who is who (walrus-john, hippo-paul, bunny-grorge, chicken-ringo) Someone comments that they thought the chickens mouth looks like john's but if you really look at it you definately see a mustache meaning it could only be ringo or george, on further inspection it looks too much like ringo to be george so we know the chicken is ringo. The rest then just falls into place.
(1) A- the instruments they play (look at who plays what with and with out the costumes- ringo still plays drums so why would the others switch around?) B- the clothes worn(again pay attention with and without costumes- ringo still has on the orange trousers so why would the others have changed?) If they had been trying to confuse the audience but switching who played what why would they have left Ringo and just the other three switch.
(2) Why would they switch around and everything. They did like to mess with people but always for good reason. Never once at least not to my knowledge did they ver do anything like that for no reason (answering stupid press questions with jokes, goofing around in public while on camera). I just doon't see the purpose of switching around for the song. It has nothing to do with the song or mood of the film (what I mean is yes the film was a laugh but it wasn't trying to confused the viewer as to which Beatle was which)
just my opinion and observation.
I think the walrus was Paul, but John wore the costume for MMT, because it would be weird for someone singing "I am the Walrus" to be dressed as something other than the walrus.
Course, who ever said that it was just to mess with people is probably more likely true.
Living life in peace...
It wasn't until later that he realised that the walrus was NOT a good guy. It was after this that he referred to Paul as being the walrus in 'glass onion'. Not that they didn't get along or anything.... :)
It had nothing to do with finding out the walrus was a bad guy or taking a shot at Paul. If anything, it was a half-assed attempt to placate his soon-to-be ex:
"The line [the walrus was Paul] was put in partly because I was feeling guilty because I was with Yoko and I was leaving Paul. It's a very perverse way of saying to Paul: 'here, have this crumb, this illusion, this stroke - because I'm leaving.'" - John, Playboy, 1980
"The best thing about that kid's name is how much it pisses the Snape-haters off."