During the bathroom scene, I seem to remember one of the soldiers had an insignia of corporal (two chevrons) with a rocker underneath it. Is there a third chevron I'm not seeing or what?
They mostly come at night... Mostly...
I saw the film when I was in the army in 1967 and we had no such rank
the PFC with the one chevron with a rocker started in 1968
I have seen this filmmore than five times. Do not recall such a rank in that scene, I am pretty sure you are missing a chevron.
shareYeah, I'll have to rewatch. I didn't think they'd make such a big mistake like that.
They mostly come at night... Mostly...
Nope, the poster is right, corporal's stripes with chevron underneath. It's on one of the guys that beats up Charles Bronson in the bathroom. MOvies "never" make factual errors!(wink)
shareThe stripes ARE the chevron. You mean an ARC under the chevrons?
And in heraldry, the chevrons IS what the British use V what the US uses are INVERTED chevrons. But why get THAT technical about everyone using the informal...?
OK, smart guy. Do you know what rank it is?
shareStop the insult. Ok? If you ask questions and want to be treated with respect, treat others with respect, jerk!
The US Army in WWII never used the rank so described. If it is shown as the OP and you state, it was a mistake of the filmmakers who apparently thought we would not notice. I have seen the film several times and do not recall seeing that rank. But since two people state the film shows 2 chevrons one arc, then probably I was wrong when I saw the movie.
Stop the insult. Ok? If you ask questions and want to be treated with respect, treat others with respect, jerk!
The US Army in WWII never used the rank so described. If it is shown as the OP and you state, it was a mistake of the filmmakers who apparently thought we would not notice. I have seen the film several times and do not recall seeing that rank. But since two people state the film shows 2 chevrons one arc, then probably I was wrong when I saw the movie.
I haven't viewed the film for years & years now, but maybe the rank insignia in question was T-5? The 'technical' reanks were created in 1942 (I think) and dropped in 1948 (again, I think)...some 'special' units - which Col. Breed's was supposed to be - dropped the 'T' from the insignia & would use a more appropriate one, according to their unit's specialty...
shareThank you for trying to help. The insignia they are describing has TWO chevrons, an ARC under, and a T. T/5 had NO rocker. I suggested the OP had seen wrong, but more than two people stated I was wrong. That the movie DID show two chevrons, T in the middle and a rocker underneath. The only technician insignia that had a rocker was T/3, but this one had three chevrons...
So either the director or the person in charge of making the uniforms and insignias for the film GOOFED.
The rank was Technician 5th Grade (thus the "T").
It most definitely existed in World War II, and was a specialist (radio, armorer, etc.) rank.
Essentially, a T-5 was a corporal (a junior non-commissioned officer) who usually didn't act in the capacity of an assistant squad leader (in command of privates or privates first class).
Close, but the problem is the scene shows that the character has a rocker underneath the T that connects the chevrons which is not consistent with the Tech 5th Grade insignia. I have not seen a variant of the Tech insignia that has this. Any ideas?
shareMost likely a goof. My "US Army rank insignia since 1775" book shows no such insignia ... it did note however that 'various' unofficial rank insignia devices were in use and in some cases were authorized by local area commanders so who knows. There used to be a great website called the US Army Insignia Homepage that is sadly now off line that displayed many of these strange insignias like a PFC chevron with arcs used for the Specialist rank - I am referring to the WW2 era specialty position, not the post 1955 rank.
This is sort of like the colors of the rank insignia chevrons ... there was no specific pattern however olive drab chevrons on dark blue background was the most common variation.
The insignia in the movie not only has the rocker that a T-5 doesn't have, but it is also missing the "T" for the Technician Grade. I've watched this movie probably over a hundred times (yes, it's a favourite), and today is the first time I've noticed the rank discrepancy. The one guy's insignia is that of a Staff Sergeant, and the other guy (the one in question here) has an insignia that just looks like a Staff Sergeant who's missing one chevron.
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That's a new directive from the pentagon, Colonel. That's out of G-2 and G-3 making a G-5 combined officers op-tech glitch. We're experimenting with a new rank: Corporal captain.
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