About Women
Let me keep it simple: How come there are no seconds or reborn women?
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Aside from the fact that men in 1966 would be more likely to have access to the money for this....
Even today, men seem to be more likely to have the midlife crisis that makes them want to discard their present life, and, often their present wife and go back to their youth.
Also think of the atmosphere in the secret men's club that lead to the Stepford Wives, a movie that was remade very recently.
Yeah, I always wonder about that midlife crisis. Do all men have it? Do women have anything to do with its onset? Do women have it?
shareNo, not all men have it. Yes, women almost surely have something to do with its onset, but mostly it's a long series of poor or forsed (by parents, society, expectations, insecurities, etc.) choices that lead someone to a place that, at the end of the day, they don't want to be in. And yes, women have it, but like most things, they don't express or experiance it in the same way.
shareThis sounds about right. Also, ever wonder what the turnabout rate would be if it were women?
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Because men don't like the idea of a "recycled" woman? Even when they are a second, they want a woman who is young the first time around?
shareThe fact that we didn't see any in the movie, didn't mean that there weren't any.
shareThe same can be said of Martians or the Eastern Bunny, can’t it? The point about women is poignant because of the message regarding women and their relationship to men within the context laid out as the plot unfolds.
shareCute - but no. Martians & the Easter Bunny don't exist.
I think that women do.
Let us refocus the discussion. My earlier reply about Martians and the Eastern Bunny had to do with an earlier comment someone made about the absence of women in the film. That is, if someone is to claim that no women are seen in the movie, then that statement is false because women play a very important part in it. The point of it all has to do with the fact that it appears that women in the film do not have the same preoccupation some men have of having a second chance in life. Now, many viewers make a very specific claim that some women are in fact in the same track of being reborn or of wanting to have a second chance to live a different life. But this is not clearly supported by the storyline. Be that as it may, those who insist on such interpretation should at least attempt to explain in which way some women undergo or want to undergo what the protagonist and others are willing to do. This is a very important point for understanding the film, since it is, after all, a film that deals with the so-called male, mid-life crisis. If the film shows women in a similar light, I want to hear about that take, for such claim will substantially change the meaning of this film.
shareI wondered that myself, and I simply concluded that the company only offered its services to men.
As others have said, that may have been for practical reasons. At that time, single women would not likely have the required financial resources, while married women would not have easy access to the household funds. Since men were the breadwinners, they were likely deemed the owners of the family wealth.
I also think women are less likely to abandon their children, even grown children, for a second chance at life. Imagine not being there for a child’s wedding or missing out on future grandchildren. I don’t know how Tony justified not seeing his daughter again.
I especially noticed the absence of women in the CPS day room. If the company did find women of means who elected to become reborns, this would imply that they adapted to their new identities better than the men did. (After all, only the “unsatisfied customers” are sent to the CPS room.)