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What, if any, do you think is the significance of Holman dying leaned up against the generator crate that was to be used for the electric light at the mission. I believe that in that shot you can see there is electric light in use. Remember earlier in the film we get sidetracked when Holman is told about the generator and that maybe he can check it out to help them get some light. I think this can be interpreted differently by different people but I feel there is some symbolism here. What do you think about the location where Holman was finally killed?

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I just watched it for the first time. GREAT movie. There is certainly symbolism in the final scene. The fact that Holman devoted his life to engines/machinery (great quote from Holman:"Hello engine.") made it only fitting that he die beside one. As far as the electric light is concerned, he gave his life to save the others...I suppose you could construe some correlation between that and the light.

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Now that you mention it, I would say that the generator and electric lights represented a 'bright' future for the missionary's cooperation with China contrasted to the reality of them being run out of the country with loss of life that they were thinking was impossible only a few minutes before.

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Not symbolism. Irony, maybe. But not important either way.

The point of having McQueen die there is to show the pointlessness of war. He could not escape. He could not make it to the boat. He could not live.

At the very end, because of very poor tactics, he had to cross from one corner of the courtyard to the other. McQueen's character was well aware of how to use the pillars as cover, yet in the final scene, he just plows ahead. Of course, he catches a bullet.

The real reason for the unused generator was to show that the nasty Americans didn't provide China with what it needed, but only with what America thought China needed.

You are right about the lights though. It sure seemed like that place was lit up with electric lights.

By the way, if America had not remained neutral in that fight, Communist China would not have become a reality.

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We werent neutral, we helped the Nationalists on several occasions; for example we gave them alot of captured German weapons and helmets after WWII (hence the pictures of Nationalist troops in the late '40s with Sthalhelm helmets and Mauser rifles).

Now if you mean direct military intervention, yeah but then it would have been like another Vietnam.

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I think the film was an allegory to the Vietnam conflict. Maybe some people don't look at it that way, but some do.

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"Never get involved in a land war in Asia"

-- General George C. Marshall

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Geeze, dude. If me and you go to a bar, and you stand by and let some guy knock the stuffing out of me, don't tell me you were on my side. I don't need friends like that. On the other hand, I do hope that my enemy's friends are only as helpful as you.

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Sorry, but you're incorrect about the source of German equipment. Nazi Germany itself supplied helmet, uniforms, and equipment to the Nationalist Chinese in the mid to late 1930s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-German_cooperation_until_1941

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I think it was stated earlier in the movie (by Shirley to Holman) that the new generator was donated by some guy from Philadelphia and was sent over to allow them to turn beet juice into sugar (probably for them to sell and make extra cash). They had power from other sources for the lights, etc. although not specifically stated whether from other generators or what.

I Didn't really take anything away as significant as far as symbolism regarding the boxed generator. Maybe I missed something.

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