When Barbara Ann is trying on the sweaters for her dad. Very strange, but oddly erotic!
shareI just found it overally disturbing. But then, she was guilting him into it, manipulating him, which kind of made it all the MORE disturbing, because you knew she was doing it on purpose *shudder*
shareAnd not JUST on purpose, but for the sole purpose of getting into that club full of poseurs.
Woman is the Earth and Man is the Sky.
Kinda makes you realize just how shallow the character of Barbara-Anne really was. Not to mention it makes you question how an obviously intelligent person like Alan could have fallen so in love with her, knowing how shallow she was.
shareAlas, that is one of the failures of the human condition. All of us, male and female alike, are prone to falling in love with people who absolutely, positively do not deserve it. But (as I have said while consoling many a friend after a bad love affair), love reflects upon the lover, not upon the beloved. In other words, the quality of one's love is not lessened merely because one made the mistake of bestowing it unwisely. Pearls cast before swine are still pearls nonetheless.
Woman is the Earth and Man is the Sky.
That's a lovely, if not somewhat sad way to put it. You're quite right though. Still, pool Alan. Kinda makes you wonder if he had any inkling that things would turn out the way they did.
shareAnyone who has read F. Scott Fitzgerald's Tender Is The Night will realise that we're in Nicole Warren territory here!
sharelove reflects upon the lover, not upon the beloved. In other words, the quality of one's love is not lessened merely because one made the mistake of bestowing it unwisely. Pearls cast before swine are still pearls nonetheless.
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Yep, that scene was indeed strange...but his laugh sounded familiar and I had to look up the actor (Max Showalter)--he was Grandpa Fred in Sixteen Candles!
shareThat scene has to be the most bizarre comedic setpiece in any film ever made, especially the way it's shot (the looney dutch angles, the way Weld squeals out the bizarrely kinky sweaty names: "Perriwinkle Pussy! Lemon Marange!", and the way her dad starts grunting and snarling like some sort of dog).
shareomg, yes, that's it exactly. this was easily the most disturbing scene in an overall strange little flick. the giddy feeding-each-other "daddy date" scene preceding was already odd, but the growling leer while trying on the sweaters...
max: that's a nice nurses' uniform, guy.
doc: these are o.r. scrubs.
max: oh, are they?
the dad's laughing in that scene was so surreal.
another scene in the film with a similiar vibe is tuesday weld playing with the principle's "microphone".
If this movie features a scene in which a young woman is trying to get her father sexualy aroused, what was this movie rated? What rating would you give it?
shareuh, i just came in on the movie when they were eating hot-dogs (seemingly appropriate) and then they went ga-ga over the sweaters. touching them, and saying the names over and over... i remember being this way with friends (not dad) after smoking' a few!
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It's a strange strange flick.
What about the drama with Lola?? A trifle bit out of place in a mindless comedy.
I think the drama with Lola stands out, and makes this film a masterpiece. At first you have a quirky little teenager movie - silly and almost pretentious with Roddy McDowell giving us all the perspective of a typical teenager who thinks he's got it all figured out. The drama suddenly, out of nowhere, shows the audience that they may be underestimating what they've been seeing.
It tricks the audience. You think you're watching a beach blanket movie - focusing on the girls - almost like an exploitation movie - and then you realize the tragedy in what you're seeing. The scene of Lola's breakdown and Barbra's reaction to Alan's news catches you so off guard - like the rug just got pulled out from under you.
Exactly!
Wow, that's some trick that Axelrod plays on the unsuspecting audience!
"Heathers" kind of reminded me of this film...At the start of "Heathers" you think its a John Hughes type of film, and then it takes a hard turn away from that.