John Surtees?
Does anyone remember seeing John Surtees in this film? He's not in the credits, but I have a feeling he was doing Scott Stoddard's driving in the British Grand Prix segment.
shareDoes anyone remember seeing John Surtees in this film? He's not in the credits, but I have a feeling he was doing Scott Stoddard's driving in the British Grand Prix segment.
shareThis movie includes real 1966 F1 championship footage...
and that's why the main characters are all wearing real F1 drivers' helmets.
Maybe you noticed that Pete Aron had the same helmet as Chris Amon.
Idem for Scott Stoddart, wearing Jackie Stewart's tartan around a white helmet
and the young Barlini in Lorenzo Bandini's colors...
Now, guess which racing driver used a white helmet with a vertical blue strip,
just like the one Sarti had?
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Indeed!
John Surtees does appear in the film, driving his Ferrari in Monaco & Spa (he got sacked after two races in '66).
But he definitely didn't wear Jackie Stewart's helmet...
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OK, then who *was* wearing Jackie Stewart's helmet while driving "Scott Stoddard's" Lotus?
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The F1 teams weren't involved with the 'fictional' footage,
which was often also shot at the actual raceweekends and
using esthetically modified F3's rather than real F1's.
A lot of the driving was done by the actors themselves,
James Mason proved to be very fast, Antonio Sabato was slow and nervous
and Montand was eager but easilly scared s*tless.
But Brian Bedford couldn't drive fast if his life depended upon it,
so it was probably a stunt-double wearing the Stewart-helmet.
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Richie Ginther doubled Bedford in all the driving scenes, hence Bedford always appearing with his face covered during the racing action.
Also, anyone else notice that Garner( Aron) appears in the Zandvort race with his face covered the same way, but not in any of the other races.
Sarti's helment changed during the movie, reflecting the real life change of Surtee's leaving Ferrari after the first 2 races of 1966. I think the later version helment in the film was styled after Mike Parkes.
Stoddard was in a BMW, or so said the film- not a Lotus- which is distinctly different.
The Pete Aaron car I think was supposed to be a Honda, which was fairly new to F1, and was painted as such. I think it was actually a Gurney Eagle though if my memory of identification is correct- The Eagles had a distintive pointed nose. I don't know if Honda prohibited the use of it's name, but I don;t think it was ever mentioned.
I'm not sure if they even made passenger cars back then.
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Aron's Yamura was actually the first McLaren F1 racer.
shareI thought stoddard drove a BRM (British Racing Motors)?
shareDamn, y'all sound like you're thinking way too much about this movie! But I might as well join in. I thought I saw Richie Ginther and Jack Brabham in non-driving scenes. I recall reading after the film came out that some of the cars were actually Formula 2 cars with parts added to imitate F-1, so I think It is probably a little difficult to "car-spot" every car used with any certainty.
shareThey were supposedly F3's, but with with exhausts / suspensions, etc. modified to look like F1's.
There were something like 30 or 32 real drivers hired for different aspects of the movie, and at least several appear in the non-racing scenes. While I am a huge fan of this movie, it seemed hilarous to me that they gave some of the most obvious real drivers fictitious names, especially Graham Hill. He is probably as recognizable as anyone, but they called him something like "Bob Turner" in the movie. One of the actors responds to him in the scene where the drivers are meeting (prior to the race at Spa?) and calls him "Bob". Still makes me laugh just thinking about it. Also, while he was reportedly extremely charasmatic in real life, his acting didn't exactly threaten, say, Laurence Olivier!
Yes, He was very charismatic. I recall his appearance at the 1966 Indianapolis Victory banquet- he was very humorous, and my mom talked about his comments for years afterward- specifically his description of the huge pile-up just after the start.
I also recall AJ Foyt's of the next year- The pace car in 1967 was a Chevy Camaro, and as was custom, the race winner is presented with a set of keys to one as part of the purse at the victory banquet. A.J., who drove for Ford, laid an egg that made a visible rippling at the affair, when he took the keys and said into the microphone that he'd have to trade it in for a Mustang.
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Surtees is not visible.
In the beginning of film, are recognizable: Bob Bondurant, Jochen Rindt,
Ritchie Ginther, Dan Gurney and possibly Jack Brabham, all are waiting
the race start.
Talking in a meeting with J.P Sarti and Nino Barlini,are visibles Fangio, Bonnier, Graham Hill and Jochen Rindt.
Racing drivers,whose cars are appearing on the film during the real
footage are :
Graham Hill---------------Toni Lanfranchi
Chris Amon----------------Guy Ligier
Lorenzo Bandini-----------Bruce McClaren
Jean Pierre Beltoise------Michael Parkes
Bob Bondurant-------------Andre Pillette
Joakim Bonnier------------Teddy Pillette
Jack Brabham--------------Peter Revson
Ken Costello--------------Jochen Rindt
Juan Manuel Fangio--------Jim Russel
Nino Farina---------------Ludovico Scarfiotti
Paul Frere----------------Jo Schlesser
Richie Ginther------------Skip Scott
Dan Gurney----------------Jo Siffert
Phil Hill-----------------Mike Spence
Denis Hulme
There are some important absences such as, Pedro Rodríguez
Jim Clark, John Surtees or Jackie Stewart.