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How to rate this show?


IF I rated this show solely with my adult point of view I would give it a five - the laugh track alone is enough to strip this show of one star. BUT if I rate this show through my childhood eyes it gets a ten. I was an official fan, thanks to my mom, who signed me up. She also bought their albums for me. I played them on my pink plastic record player that, up until then, had played children's 45's. So I have settled on an eight rating. I think there is a lot to be said for sentiment and how long the love of a show - or movie - remains in your heart. Think of it, writing this in 2015, it has been almost 50 years! I was seven and loved the show. The child in me still loves the show. When I was a child I didn't really understand the show but I still laughed.

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Why would you even concern yourself with that?

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Why not? I found comparing the my childhood memory of The Monkeys with my current view of the show fun. You don't have to.

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I get what you mean. Sometimes the comedy or storylines can be too random, compared to more modern shows. Then they'll have a music segment or show something unscripted, or I'll appreciate something else unique about the cast/show and everything's great again ;). I'm always sentimental about the theme song montage at the beginning.

I don't have the same taste for other 1960s or '70s shows, the way I did when I was a kid. Bewitched is still good -- even better now that I'm getting to see some classic movies with Dick York and Agnes Moorehead (she was surprisingly charming at times back then). I'm getting into Adam-12 now that I'm thinking about how a lot of storylines on the show are inspired by real cases.


Mag, Darling, you're being a bore.

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And there are I Love Lucy and The Honeymooners - two shows that, regardless of my age, have always and will always make me laugh.

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I almost mentioned I Love Lucy. It always makes me laugh, too.


Mag, Darling, you're being a bore.

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Check out Hogan's Heroes. It was full of very good actors. I've seen John Banner & Werner Klemperer in several movies... and we just saw Gen'l Burkoff in Airplane II! Keep your eyes NOT on the main action, what's going on in the background, and the reactions of the other characters are worth the watch.

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And, as you just mentioned in the "When Davy had to leave the United States" thread, Bernard Fox, who played Colonel Crittendon in "Hogan's Heroes," was in the Monkees episode "Monkees Mind Their Manor."

Leon Askin (General Burkhalter in HH) appeared as Nicolai in "The Card Carrying Red Shoes."


Exactly like your father! A big, stupid, muscle-headed moron!

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Here are a few more actors who appeared in both "The Monkees" and "Hogan's Heroes," courtesy of IMDb:

Arlene Martel (Madame in "The Spy Who Came in from the Cool" and Lorelei in "Monstrous Monkee Mash") was Tiger in 7 HH episodes

John Hoyt (Dr. Mendoza in "I Was a Teenage Monster") was General Bruner in 7 HH episodes

Henry Corden (landlord Mr. Babbit in 4 episodes and Blauner, manager of the Henry Cabot Lodge, in "The Wild Monkees") was Antonovich in 5 HH episodes

Oscar Beregi Jr. (Count in "The Prince and the Paupers") was General Stauffen in 2 HH episodes

Hans Conried (Mendrek in "The Monkee's Paw") was Major Bonacelli in 1 HH episode

Cliff Norton (J.L. in "The Picture Frame") was Captain Kurtz in 1 HH episode

Vito Scotti (Dr. Marcovich in "Case of the Missing Monkee") was Major Bonacelli in 1 HH episode


Exactly like your father! A big, stupid, muscle-headed moron!

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I agree that it has moments when it is good. The problem with watching it as an adult is it isn't fresh and new for me anymore. As a child I found it hilariously silly and just a wee bit naughty. I watched two episodes today and kept exclaiming to myself, "They needed WRITERS for this?!" I can see why grown men would think it was stupid to be a star for this stuff. But the music redeems it for me, and in the end, perhaps it redeemed it for the Monkees. So my early self gives it a ten and my current self gives it a five. Or less, on some episodes. It wasn't great art meant to last the ages. It was frothy fun, bubblegum tv.

The borderline anarchy reminds me of Laugh In, which I wish I could see in its entirety rather than in pieces now. Laugh In reminds me of the Ernie Kovaks Show which apparently only survives in a few episodes of surrealistic comedy. I would also include in that category Burns and Allen, which broke the "fourth wall" all the time, sometimes with George even stepping over one of the house walls, and had very funny commercials plotted into the story lines. Jack Benny Show was another one that made its own rules, including a Christmas episode that ended with a harassed store clerk being driven by Benny into shooting himself off camera in the back room in what has to be a unique sketch finale in a holiday tv show. Nothing says hilarity like suicide at Christmas time. Oh my goodness! Growing up when I did, I have an appreciation for comedy that tries something different. Seinfeld did, too, but I got bored with that one. I wish Pushing Daisies had lasted longer. There is still a lot of creativity out there and occasionally it gets onto tv.

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Spot on. Their music does survive. I still enjoy Green Acres, although it is a bit dated, but I love whimsical and dry humor, and Green Acres had both. Laugh In was of my time so yes, I appreciate it and it still makes me smile. Let's see, one more off of the top of my head is Soap.

The death of laugh tracks was a wonderful boost to good writing. Today a lousy sitcom relies on the laugh track. Ever notice that? Can't stand it. I can't stand being told how I'm supposed to feel. Sorry - off topic.

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Some of my favorite shows had laugh tracks Monkees, Munsters, Happy Days, Get Smart. They used film. Those shows would not have worked on videotape in front of live audiences. They were more arty - if that's the correct term

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