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why did the series not last?


It was a shame that only a few episodes were made it could of been so successfull but i heard it was cancelled after a season.

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Yes, 26 episodes from September 1966 to March '67, and ABC pulled it off their schedule after just a handful of repeats rather than run them through the summer.

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The reason that William Dozier did not continue the series was not for bad ratings, but he want a hour long window for each episode (reason for the 2-parters) and ABC wasn't willing to give him the extra 30 minutes, so he just pulled the plug to the series, and ABC got back at him by pulling 'Batman' off the network!

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Van Williams said this in a 1988 interview in Starlog magazine (October 1988), but to say that I've got no reason to believe it is an understatement. Cinefantastique magazine's February 1994 issue was Batman-dominated, with sections on the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher theatrical films, the Fox network TV cartoons and the 1960s campy Batman series. In the latter, they categorically stated that that show's "ratings sagged second season," corroborated by the fact that ABC reduced it from two episodes a week to one for the third (that and the fact that the network ran that season's twenty-odd episodes straight through on consecutive Thursday evenings--including Thanksgiving!--and did no reruns thereafter strongly suggests that they had committed themselves to a third season well in advance and when the time actually came, they'd have rather cancelled). In discussing the cross-over with The Green Hornet ("A Piece of the Action/Batman's Satisfaction"), Cinefantastique reported that its ratings were often in Nielsen's bottom 20. Even Williams admitted in the previously mentioned interview that the cross-over was an attempt to draw Batman's audience to The...Hornet, paradoxical to his having also claimed there, "We were winning our time slot." As they were up against CBS' megahit The Wild Wild West, that is definitely not true, reducing the believability quotient of any of the actor's statements. I've never encountered any actual, credible corroboration for Williams' one-hour-expansion claim, just people like you repeating it. And there's that evidence above working against it.

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I can neither confirm nor deny any official decision about one-hour episodes. But in another thread here before I read this, I remarked that the episodes on the SyFy GH marathon seemed too pat and rushed, and that they would have benefitted from a one hour episode slot to develop the story better. I recorded only about 5 episodes, but the 2-part "Beautiful Dreamer" felt like a better story because it had enough time to develop with twists and turns.

As they stand, the ~25 minute episodes didn't do much for me beyond nostalgia and watching Bruce Lee kick serious butt.

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Because it was pretty bad.

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In his The Green Hornet (Book) (1988, Shuster and Shuster) on the series, James Van Hise included in his commentaries for several episodes that because of the half-hour time slot, the mystery culprits (when there were any) were too easy to spot. On the other hand, such half-hour crime shows as Richard Diamond, Private Detective, Honey West and the "Dante's Inferno" episodes of Four Star Playhouse (to name three I'm familiar with off the top of my head) did a pretty good job, so I believe the target audience being youngsters was a factor in this.

BTW, I put "Book" in parentheses because it appears only on the spine and in the legal fine print on the reverse of the main title page; it is not part of the logo seen on the front cover and the two(!) title pages.

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I have no idea about the original ratings for this show or the demographics.

But I can only assume that kids thought it would be in the same vain as Batman and once they saw one or two episodes that drove some of them away. Similar to adults, some adults thought it also was in the same vain as Batman (a kid's show) so they never even watched a single episode.

I know this is a generalization, but it could explain some reasons for why it didn't last. Different demographics had assumptions about the show and that drove them away from it and never gave it a chance.

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Could it be because the villians were bland, unlike Batman's campy criminals? Plus, remember, even Batman only lasted 2 years.

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Batman lasted three seasons, from January 1966 till March 1968.

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And January 1966 to March 1968 is two years and two months. Two years is a very reasonable approximation, especially as it appears that ABC would have preferred to cancel after the second season but had committed itself to the third well in advance.

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tbrittreid - you mentioned that you didn't think the half-hour format played a factor. You mentioned "Honey West" as an example, but she only lasted one season too. "Richard Diamond" was largely a summer replacement series, was done in the 50's, and of course had the inimitable David Janssen. Still, the "Rifleman" was a big success. I think you're right though, James West was tough to beat.

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Years ago I saw (literally, on TV) an interview with Honey West star Anne Francis (R.I.P.). She said that their half-hour episodes were costing ABC more than the hour-long ones of the British import The Avengers, which the network perceived as much the same thing. As for Richard Diamond..., it ran long enough that one regular character was recast, and the setting was changed from L.A. to N.Y.C. (or vice versa, I don't remember which off the top of my head).

I have to ask: Why did you mention The Rifleman? I didn't, but had considered it as it includes several reasonable "whodunit" episodes scattered across its run.

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I mentioned the "Rifleman" as an example of a half-hour drama that was indeed successful. It had a good, long run.

"Richard Diamond" began in NYC, and then moved to sunny L.A. so David Janssen could ride around in a convertible like a playboy,and talk on the then state-of-the-art mobile telephone. His sexy-voiced operator was none other than Mary Tyler Moore.

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I believe it didn't last (plus I haven't seen it on reruns until recently) because Batman included much more humour and campy villans.

I bet they're showing the reruns now to promote the new movie coming out.

But, I'm enjoying these reruns.
--Sandi H.

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