texas holdem vs five card stud poker
what do you think of a person has more chance of winning.
shareWould think Texas Holdem you have three more cards to deal with.
Now as I watched this today I kept thinking if they remade this today would they change the card game to Texas Holdem?
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Thank you for the Lesson in Cards. I agree it should never be remade there isn't a Hollywood actor that is even fit to Tie the shoes of this great cast. But with hollywood wanting to update everything when they remake a movie they would change the game to Texas Holdem. Just like they changed the game in Casino Royal to Texas Holdem from the original card game.
shareYeah ok, Rounders was extremely unrealistic. A straight flush in 5 card stud is absolutely ridonkulous, that's besides the point the kid hit his boat.
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I disagree, in Rounders the hands that came up were pretty reasonable, a boat versus a higher boat and later the nut straight versus ?
In this movie, you have a full house versus a straight flush, heads up in 5 card stud. the odds of this happening are even more extreme.
Fair enough this might come up in holdem once every 500000 hands or so, but in 5 card stud the chances would be in the millions.
I could work out the odds but Im not going to. All I know is the odds of getting s straight flush are 250000 to 1 and a fullhouse is about 1 in 1000 in 5 card stud, so combined I think its pretty extreme and unrealistic, moreso than rounders...
Like Mike said, the vision of him playing at the Mirage blinded him into over playing his fullhouse rather than flatcalling KGB's raise.
Also, by saying he didnt think KGB had the spades, he was hoping KGB did hit the flush. I dont think there was anything wrong with that play but without the nuts I probably would have just flat called.
knife party - thats the most (yr closing paragraph) sensible thing i've evr read on all of imdb about the climatic hand in Rounders. its amazing the ammount of crap ppl have written about that scene, it really is!
with regard to this film, Cincinatti, I just saw it for the first time last night (Ive been rather busy for the last 42 years) and that was only from halfway thru, but something struck me about the last game - Shooter was `dealing' for the kid, which the kid did'nt like. S'posing Lancy, being the great card player he was sposed to be, picked up on this and struck a deal with Lady Fingers and she fixed the cards somehow for the last hand/mechaniced them, whatever - i mean come on, the odds, heads up, A's full vs a straight flush...over 45 million to one! got more chance of fixing it with a shady deal or pre stacked pack pulled from under the table slyly. Good film. Left me feeling a tad depressed though - had to go and read `The man behind the shades' !!!!!!!
Peace, all.
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Zeta Reticulli, home of the grey.
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I can see what youre saying about it being a tell for a strong hand. Maybe Mike thought KGB didnt give him enough credit as a player and really did think that if Mike was to imply he didnt have spades, KGB would believe it if he had made his flush. As it turns out, Mike completely misread KGB's play and in any case, Mike was all in and it didnt matter what Mike said, KGB was never going to lay down Aces full, to an unlikely quad nines heads up.
shareI don't suppose five card stud has that much appeal anymore, because it's a lot harder to get a good hand. With only five cards, your odds of getting anything are much lower than with seven card poker. Also there are fewer betting rounds, and only one card is hidden.
I believe Hold 'em became popular partly because it works on TV, and so was featured in the World Series of Poker when that was introduced.
We report, you decide; but we decide what to report.
"As for the big hands that are unlikely to happen, who cares man. If you play enough crazy hands are going to happen. I've seen a two card straight flush against a higher two card straight flush live at the World Series in a holdem tournament. How unlikely is this on any given hand? And who cares? Sh** happens, particularly in poker."
That's very *beep* true. Ask anyone who's played as much as the two cats in this movie!
Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!
I was playing cards long before Rounders, but I do enjoy watching it occasionally. I've always taken the opening hand in Rounders to show Mike still had some greenness about him regardless of the excellent card sense he showed throughout the movie. Mike was blinded by his dreams about the Mirage etc. etc. Later in the film, they were trying to show how he had grown emotionally to match his natural ability.
As far as the last hand of Cincinnati Kid, it is hard for me to really imagine a player of Lancey's caliber playing the hand the way he did. He is putting his money in the pot early in the hand with no chance that he has the best hand, and he isn't really raising enough to push the Kid off any hands that he might fold later in the hand.
As far as the odds of those two hands crashing into each other; we all admit that is a huge longshot. I've got roughly 3 million hands under my belt(mostly hold 'em online), and I've seen and given beats that boggle the imagination, so you just never know.
Here is another way to look at it. Why wouldn't Lancey get away from that hand early and wait for a better spot to get his money in? The gap between he and the kid was close, but it wasn't so close that he had to gamble like that at that point in the game. He would have been much better off to pick another spot and get his money in then.
Best Wishes,
Fitz
Woudln't a straight flush vs. full boat be LESS likely in Hold 'Em? There are only five cards up and they're shared, so the chances that they will lend themselves to one guy's full boat and one guy's straight flush seems pretty f'ed up.
Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!
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JordanCollier you call yourself a cardplayer and you say the scenes from Rounders are unrealistic??
I've been a cardplayer for almost 5 years now. I play 6 days a week between 5 and 10 hrs every day.
Here an idea of what you call unrealistic hands I had in 5 years of playing:
- I had Royal Flush twice. One of the times I was up against Aces Full.
- I flopped Aces full, and somebody flopped quads.
- I had Top full house by the river, only to lose to quads on numerous occasions, I would say 7 or 8 times.
- I flopped the nut flush and somebody flopped a straight flush and vice versa.
- I've seen quads over quads twice (I wasn't in the hand)
That's few of the thing out of the top of my head that I can recall quickly..
Now about the hand with Damon where you said "give away his hand by making such a ridiculously obvious statement." He didn't give away his hand. He was trying to mislead KGB by trying to represent weekness, since he had no doubt in his mind that he had the best hand.
Plus whoever said he didn't have the nuts, he should've just called. That's ridiculous. KGB didn't have the nuts either. Does that mean he should've played his hand slow, fearing he's up against quad nines? Of course not.
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